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Post by merkeju on Dec 7, 2009 4:43:19 GMT 3
I must admit that Ruto,Balala and all their cronies who are technically in ODM are an asset and we should thank them for getting the masses energized again,Raila is right,we need them,they may choose to go uhuru kenyatta way and move out of ODM and become irrelevant or come back to the fold with less clout,less bargaining power,their gambling did not pay off. Do we forgive them? no i dont think so,as Gumo said ODM came along with all kind of people and its high time we separate the genuine reformist and the status quo defenders. Did we forgive Charity Ngilu? yes we did but am yet convinced she is fully committed to ODM Raila should watch,Jebii kilimo,whose famous Raila ni simba ya kukula watu slang was received in ODM warmly but as turned back to bite the hands that held her when she was falling,Ruto will always be Ruto,pain in the b***,lets keep them but at our own peril,Balala is different he belongs in ODM,he has a total different life story from Rutos,uhurus,he has been with Raila the longest,let him change is ways and he will be welcomed to the fold,Ruto,uhuru,kalonzo, bad idea
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Post by job on Dec 7, 2009 4:53:34 GMT 3
From the Mombasa NEC, the party seems to have delegated its technical team to review the harmonized draft, but this Nation report below gives a general idea where they stand - supporting the draft's three tier devolution system & either parliamentary sytem or hybrid with strong PM.
I am yet to decipher any news regarding their game plan on legislating revolutionary laws touching on land, from Sessional paper #3.Tononoka was a sea of humanity & show of grassroots might. 75 MPs attending, with more than a third of cabinet Ministers, including 3 from Rift Valley was a big statement.
Balala has simply lost his plot - irrespective of his begging for half time.
I'm glad Ocampo & PEV issues didn't feature, but Gumo et al. called the YK92 group for exactly what they are - greedy, selfish, thieves. I mean which right thinking Kenyan would look upto the Jirongos and Isaac Rutos of this world for leadership? These folks were rejected in 2002 and nothing much has changed - Kenya is not going back to YK92.Daily Nation, Bernard Namunane
The Orange Democratic Movement wants the country to either adopt a full parliamentary system or a hybrid government with a powerful prime minister.
The party will present its proposals to the Committee of Experts after its law review team has compiled the resolutions passed during the weekend retreat in Mombasa.
On Sunday, ODM secretary-general Anyang’ Nyong’o said they had agreed with most of the proposals in the Draft law and were “happy with it.”
“We have made extreme comments on the draft Constitution and our technical team is putting them together. We are generally happy with the draft,” he told the Nation on phone after the retreat.
By making minimal proposal to amend the draft, it now means the political class has paved way for a quicker passage of the new Constitution.
Last week, 11 main political parties met in Nairobi and struck a deal on some of the contentious issues, among them the form of government and devolution.
Even though ODM was listed as part of the team, it quickly clarified that its position would be decided at the Mombasa retreat.
On Sunday, Prof Nyong’o who is the Medical Services minister, said the party’s legislators and members of the National Executive Council agreed with the CoE chaired by lawyer Nzamba Gitonga on the positions of the President and the PM as crafted in the draft.
“We agreed with the draft regarding the positions of the President and the Prime Minister but we made numerous recommendations on the functions of the two offices,” he said. However, those who attended the meeting said ODM legislators had agreed on two options — either full parliamentary system or hybrid system.
The parliamentary system the party prefers, it was said, was the one in the Bomas Draft that proposes an executive premier who is elected by MPs. The second option was the hybrid system, as proposed in the draft, but with amendments to the functions of the President and the PM.
The President, to be elected directly by voters can either chair the Cabinet or in his absence the PM.
Further, the PM, who will head what they described as “government by cabinet” will be elected by MPs and will initiate and oversee implementation of laws and serve as head government functions.
This means that all the functions of the Head of Civil Service will effectively be transferred to the PM’s office.
Prof Nyong’o said they had agreed on the three-tier devolved system of government as proposed in the draft.
Other parties have said the three levels should be reduced to two to cut on costs.
“The full statement of our position on the draft Constitution will be released after technical team finishes its work,” the minister said.
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Post by phil on Dec 7, 2009 17:20:31 GMT 3
TONONOKA: They came, they saw and they conquered.
It is now up to Najib Balala to choose his political destiny. It is unlikely that his return back to the ODM fold will make any difference. The ground has shifted massively and even former PNU supporters in the coast are digging in for ODM.
Mvita delegates allied to Balala were ejected from the NEC/PG meeting. There's already an acting Mvita MP in place and if Balala is stupid enough to swallow Joho's bait and resign from ODM and as MP with the hope of by re-elected, that will be the end of him.
The party ought to have more of these meetings spread out in the provinces so the leadership can resonate with members and supporters at the grassroot.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Dec 7, 2009 20:35:54 GMT 3
The party ought to have more of these meetings spread out in the provinces so the leadership can resonate with members and supporters at the grassroot. NO phil ODM doesn not need more of these ad hoc mass meetings. It needs more of organizing, recruiting members, getting a genuine, robust party off the ground. It needs an policy arm It needs an arm devoted to workers, women and youth. It then needs to educate and empower the masses, so we can get rid of the dead wood that we yap about here day in day out, so that the people can make the leadership accountable, and then the people's agenda can move forward. R ame legea sana with the vision of sustainable party building. Yes it needs massive resources, but the will and the vision has to be there first. After reading TJMs Biography, I am amazed at just how astute he was. R is good at starting vehicles for elections, but it seems to me he is failing at taking the MOST important step yet, that of converting it into a sustainable movement of ideas for successful governance. That not withstanding, I am glad wa kosti came out in droves and punctured the thin balloon of hypocrisy and greed blown up by the renegades.
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Post by tnk on Dec 7, 2009 23:36:52 GMT 3
just who exactly do these people represent? and what exactly is their real reason for getting elected as MPs == "We now consider the Prime Minister an opponent – a political enemy. We shall do everything possible to frustrate him politically." Indeed, an MP from western Kenya claims some MPs from Rift Valley have confided to colleagues on how they plan to make the PM an unappealing presidential candidate. "Tunataka kupaka Raila matope sawasawa mpaka ikifika 2012, watu wetu wakimuangalia, hawatatambua kwamba yeye ndiyo arap Mibei waliofahamu 2007 (We want to pour all sorts of dirt on Raila so that our people will not recognise him as the arap Mibei (one of the PM’s nicknames) they knew in 2007). == www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144029913&cid=4&ttl=Dilemma%20in%20Orange%20as%20top%20dogs%20dig%20in
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Post by kamalet on Dec 8, 2009 10:50:37 GMT 3
First it was Isaac Ruto claiming that Raila did not win the election for president after all.
Then over the weekend the same thing was repeated by Kutuny!
Is this the matope being alluded to above?
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Post by mtumishiman on Dec 8, 2009 15:27:22 GMT 3
Kamalet, And did you believe them? Did they give any evidence to prove their allegation. I think the two have (1) their own frustrations (2) are footsoldiers who are bidding for their master I wonder why they had to marshall troops to fight (for a supposedly wrong cause) in the first place if they knew what they are volunteering now. Their verbiage can never be a verisimilar tale, unless one believes in folktales.
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Post by mzee on Dec 9, 2009 15:08:37 GMT 3
I do agree with those who say that it’s only a question of time before WSR bolts out of ODM. But he won’t do it now because it won’t create the effect he wants. I think he might finalize the move a few months prior to the 2012 elections. WSR cannot win the presidency and he knows that too but he has the capacity to do damage to any presidential candidate given the number of votes he commands. The problem for Ruto is that everybody is looking for support from him but no heavyweight outside his community really wants to support him. I know that Mudavadi and Uhuru who command substantial number of votes will not support WSR. SO what will WSR do? I think he will do a Judas, only that Judas himself will also repeat a Judas (if Ngilu does not overran him, huyo mama hatari we). This will leave the field open for two other candidates i.e. RAO and Uhuru. In the event that two front runners do not meet the required 50+1% (assuming the new constitution is enacted) then WSR will have a chance to support one or the other party. If he supports the right party then he is likely to have a powerful position in the next government (probably a PM).
The WSR rebellion has a double effect in the sense that while on one side it aims to pull out the kalenjins out of ODM, it is also cementing ODM/RAO´s support amongst other communities and last Mombasa rally is a clear indication of that. So how is he going to get support of other communities who are not interested in the MAU politics? Will he be shouting about Mau in Mombasa, Lamu, Meru, Kisumu, Hombay, Kakamega and Machakos? Will they understand him? That’s his headache, I don’t care. I think that RAO did a good thing by displaying a show of might in Tononoka grounds.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Dec 9, 2009 20:52:46 GMT 3
mzee Not only is the ruto move cementing Rs grassroot support in the Extra-RV communities, but lets make it clear that the RV vote is NOT monolithic as we speak. ruto has his share and so will R and his key RV supporters. Basically ruto will be a slightly larger version of Kombo - or Judas KM who have significant home based support but its NOT universal.
I dont mind the end game looking as I see it currently, with ruto getting his UDM share and R getting his ODM share of the vote in RV
At the end, all R wants is the people to forge ahead, it doesnt matter what their ethnicity is. There is no single politician who goes out of his way to seek grass root support for policy and woe the vote like R. NOT one!
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Post by nereah on Dec 19, 2009 16:02:46 GMT 3
just finished reading a juicy political news feed in the star penned by isaac ongiri. it says organizers of the mvita rally now in progress are spending sh 4 million on 80 mps invited.
in summary:
one minister from central kenya(guess who?)has raised sh 1.2 million air tickets for the return flights of wajumbes.
-the tickets were being collected at the bunge offices of juja mp thuo the francis who upon arriving in mombasa with musyoka's special representative,muthama,sheepishly said: we are here to give our friend and brother support.we will support any development agenda in any part of the country.we are not interested in politics"
-balala and two other ministers raised sh 1.4m for accomodation of the wajumbes.
-one of the two ministers also issued sh 50,000 handouts each to some ten broke mps who could not attend the harambee-cum-rally in mvita.
-kalonzo wont attend but has dispatched his trusted lieutenant, muthama the johnston.
-the invited mps are okemo the chris,my boy ababu namwamba, ndambuki,mbuiki,uhuru,haji yusu,wakoli bifwoli, baya the francis,chiaba abu,duale aden,raia gonzi,ole metito,naomi,mututho,waititu,mbugua, and the usual suspects from north rift.
-ruto's assistant in agriculture docket,mbiuki says kkk would endorse support for ousted suoth mugirango mp omingo magara would ask magara not to defend his seat on odm ticket. he went on to say: we met last night and decided that our parties will not sponsor anyone against magara.we are bgoing to support him as a block both financially and politically"
-an mp from north eastern province said odmk leadership(read kalonzo) had ordered them to attend the mvita rally so as to show solidarity with kkk alliance.
-in similar fashion to the mau harambee, the mvita harambee is meant for the poor village elders in balala constituency under a project known as 100 elders investment project.
-musa the sirma says:it is interesting that someone who is going to harambee for poor people, is paid to do so,given free air ticket,free dinner and free bed and breakfast to attend. i have never seen a thing like that"
question: could it be possible that the mbutas are regrouping to fight back agwambo's land reform and environmental conservation?
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Post by nereah on Dec 19, 2009 20:37:23 GMT 3
contrary to earlier report,kalonzo showed up at mvita rallly. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144030814&cid=418&meaning rudderless kkk is still kicking. watching the news clip, its like the day belonged to ruto with kalonzo and uhuru as escorts. but this may just be false assumption. as speculated here in jukwaa uhuru and kalonzo are intent on emboldening the ruto-balala group to cause havoc in odm. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/Breakaway-ODM-crew-point-fingers-at-Raila-6872.htmlone may also speculate that their dalliance with odm rebels is to the behest of rich land owners who are opposed to the land reforms and would be keen on distracting agwambo from this cause and in effect keeping him preoccupied with fighting internal rebellion in odm. i gather that ruto has organised what his allies calls mother of all gathering at his eldoret residence on or before the new year eve where kkk alliance will be formally launched. but then if last thursday's successful consultative meeting in kisumu of grassroots leaders and elders from maasai,luo and kalenjins are anything to go by, ruto camp in odm has still a long way to go as far as consolidating the rift valley constituency is concerned. kaburwo and rest,what do you think?
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Post by politicalmaniac on Dec 19, 2009 21:34:45 GMT 3
-ruto's assistant in agriculture docket,mbiuki says kkk would endorse support for ousted suoth mugirango mp omingo magara would ask magara not to defend his seat on odm ticket. he went on to say: we met last night and decided that our parties will not sponsor anyone against magara.we are bgoing to support him as a block both financially and politically"
-musa the sirma says:it is interesting that someone who is going to harambee for poor people, is paid to do so,given free air ticket,free dinner and free bed and breakfast to attend. i have never seen a thing like that"
question: could it be possible that the mbutas are regrouping to fight back agwambo's land reform and environmental conservation?So Magara will run but NOT as ODM but as what PNU? Is tha it? This will be interesting for Magara has 100% name rec, but will it matter? ODM with R at the helm already won a Gusii seat by - election, despite ruto and Judas KM and martha heading down there to campaign against ODM. The big difference here is the quality of the candidate, should Magara run under the PNU umbrella it may be difficult to beat him but NOT impossible. What ODM needs is a quality candidate who is well funded. I have no idea who that may be. But I look forward to this race. I hope it will AGAIN deflate the helium in the ruto/Judas KM/jomo jnr axis of retrograde tribal politics, and keep the ODM balloon afloat. And Musa Sirma's one liner is a classic!
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Post by shifta on Dec 19, 2009 23:33:10 GMT 3
Siasa yetu kweli yashangaza. The one aspect I am waiting to see, as most, is just how will they divide the spoils. Uhuru, Ruto and Ka-Judas all want power for the top posts, what gives? Also, these jokers have started way too early - 3-years to go. The biggest disappointment in politics for me this time around is one Ababu Namwamba. I should have known and not have had such high hopes.
Kwani Nereah what happened to boy? How did he get compromised?
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Post by tnk on Dec 19, 2009 23:34:44 GMT 3
contrary to earlier report,kalonzo showed up at mvita rallly. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144030814&cid=418&meaning rudderless kkk is still kicking. watching the news clip, its like the day belonged to ruto with kalonzo and uhuru as escorts. but this may just be false assumption. as speculated here in jukwaa uhuru and kalonzo are intent on emboldening the ruto-balala group to cause havoc in odm. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/Breakaway-ODM-crew-point-fingers-at-Raila-6872.htmlone may also speculate that their dalliance with odm rebels is to the behest of rich land owners who are opposed to the land reforms and would be keen on distracting agwambo from this cause and in effect keeping him preoccupied with fighting internal rebellion in odm. i gather that ruto has organised what his allies calls mother of all gathering at his eldoret residence on or before the new year eve where kkk alliance will be formally launched. but then if last thursday's successful consultative meeting in kisumu of grassroots leaders and elders from maasai,luo and kalenjins are anything to go by, ruto camp in odm has still a long way to go as far as consolidating the rift valley constituency is concerned. kaburwo and rest,what do you think? Raila needs to disengage and stop playing in the mud with these guys. let them go around with their kkk alliance for as long as they want. any attempt to engage will lend itself to the adage "never argue with a fool for no-one can tell the difference" one undeniable fact however is that these new breed of "young turks or is it thugs" have tasted (raw) power and will go to any lengths including form unimaginable alliances to ensure that they remain in power. there is absolutely no other discernible message from these gatherings. all these are not only MPs but also ministers in very powerful or influential ministries, and not surprisingly not a single one of them can point at any milestone achievement that has in any way impacted the public. perhaps annoyingly for all of them, Raila is associated first with the clamour for 2nd and 3rd liberation, and recently very visible environmental conservation efforts all achieved under extremely hostile conditions. a quick scan at those who gathered at Mvita grounds reveals ..... well ,..... am trying hard to find a face of a reformist ....... all i see is ........ ok ..... i give up, well that is the face of a future kenya alright, just like in 1963, those that went to the trenches and fought colonialism, came back only to find those that had always eaten from the fat, had already been assigned or lined up for plum positions and so it is 50 years later, those that benefited most for moi era are poised to taker over the reigns of leadership while the 2nd liberation heroes/heroines are increasingly being conveniently sidelined or deliberately being targeted as obstacles to their grand march to absolute power.
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Post by Titchaz on Dec 20, 2009 6:25:56 GMT 3
contrary to earlier report,kalonzo showed up at mvita rallly. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144030814&cid=418&meaning rudderless kkk is still kicking. watching the news clip, its like the day belonged to ruto with kalonzo and uhuru as escorts. but this may just be false assumption. as speculated here in jukwaa uhuru and kalonzo are intent on emboldening the ruto-balala group to cause havoc in odm. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/Breakaway-ODM-crew-point-fingers-at-Raila-6872.htmlone may also speculate that their dalliance with odm rebels is to the behest of rich land owners who are opposed to the land reforms and would be keen on distracting agwambo from this cause and in effect keeping him preoccupied with fighting internal rebellion in odm. i gather that ruto has organised what his allies calls mother of all gathering at his eldoret residence on or before the new year eve where kkk alliance will be formally launched. but then if last thursday's successful consultative meeting in kisumu of grassroots leaders and elders from maasai,luo and kalenjins are anything to go by, ruto camp in odm has still a long way to go as far as consolidating the rift valley constituency is concerned. kaburwo and rest,what do you think? Nereah,Heshima natanguliza mbele dadangu. Ulipoeka hili dondoo hapa jana nilidhani kama unatania vile lakini nilipoenda kulala na kuamka nikaona kweli hawa mahayawani wameamua kufanya huu upuzi mitaa ya kwetu. Ukweli ni kwamba huyu Balala chuma chake kiko motoni na hizi seketa anazoleta ni kama vishindo vya mashua baharini..havishtui bahari. Ulisikia wapi chura kamzuia ngombe kunywa maji mtoni?..Muache afure mpaka apasuke. Hebu tizama hio Pwani yote, wabunge wangapi walihudhuria hiki kikao cha mabwanyenye? Huyo Naomi Shaban tunamjua kama kibaraka wa familia ya Kenyatta na ndiye nyapara wa mashamba yao mitaa ya Taita Taveta. Waswahili watakwambia hamna jipya hapo na ishatoka hio ikirudi ina pancha!..This was very interesting from the Daily Nation. Hio Mombasa inawenyewe na ifikapo 2012 watatambua maana ya kauli hii. Hili ni genge la wezi wa mashamba na kila mkenya anajua hio kitu. Nd'o iweje eti leo wanataka kua watawala wa Kenya. Kalonzo na Ruto ni watoto wa Moi na tunajua huyu nguli alivyotutendea sisi wananchi wa Jamhuri ya kenya. Itakua wazimu wa hali ya juu wakipata kura aidi ya mipaka ya makabila yao and thats a fact. Uhuru Kenyatta ni mwizi na babake alikua mwizi. Kuna mtu anabisha hilo? ...Huyo Kalonzo naye sintosahau ile kauli yake wakati wakamba walikua wanakufa kwa njaa naye anasema eti hakuna njaa mitaa ya kwao...Ilmradi tu kumfurahisha Moi. Sasa kem nambie nani mwenye akili timamu atawapa kura? Hizi ndizo ishu zitakazoletwa mezani mwaka wa 2012...in a big way. Shukran.
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Post by Titchaz on Dec 20, 2009 6:51:27 GMT 3
contrary to earlier report,kalonzo showed up at mvita rallly. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144030814&cid=418&meaning rudderless kkk is still kicking. watching the news clip, its like the day belonged to ruto with kalonzo and uhuru as escorts. but this may just be false assumption. as speculated here in jukwaa uhuru and kalonzo are intent on emboldening the ruto-balala group to cause havoc in odm. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/Breakaway-ODM-crew-point-fingers-at-Raila-6872.htmlone may also speculate that their dalliance with odm rebels is to the behest of rich land owners who are opposed to the land reforms and would be keen on distracting agwambo from this cause and in effect keeping him preoccupied with fighting internal rebellion in odm. i gather that ruto has organised what his allies calls mother of all gathering at his eldoret residence on or before the new year eve where kkk alliance will be formally launched. but then if last thursday's successful consultative meeting in kisumu of grassroots leaders and elders from maasai,luo and kalenjins are anything to go by, ruto camp in odm has still a long way to go as far as consolidating the rift valley constituency is concerned. kaburwo and rest,what do you think? Raila needs to disengage and stop playing in the mud with these guys. let them go around with their kkk alliance for as long as they want. any attempt to engage will lend itself to the adage "never argue with a fool for no-one can tell the difference" one undeniable fact however is that these new breed of "young turks or is it thugs" have tasted (raw) power and will go to any lengths including form unimaginable alliances to ensure that they remain in power. there is absolutely no other discernible message from these gatherings. all these are not only MPs but also ministers in very powerful or influential ministries, and not surprisingly not a single one of them can point at any milestone achievement that has in any way impacted the public. perhaps annoyingly for all of them, Raila is associated first with the clamour for 2nd and 3rd liberation, and recently very visible environmental conservation efforts all achieved under extremely hostile conditions. a quick scan at those who gathered at Mvita grounds reveals ..... well ,..... am trying hard to find a face of a reformist ....... all i see is ........ ok ..... i give up, well that is the face of a future kenya alright, just like in 1963, those that went to the trenches and fought colonialism, came back only to find those that had always eaten from the fat, had already been assigned or lined up for plum positions and so it is 50 years later, those that benefited most for moi era are poised to taker over the reigns of leadership while the 2nd liberation heroes/heroines are increasingly being conveniently sidelined or deliberately being targeted as obstacles to their grand march to absolute power. tnk,Za kwako mkuu mwenangu?Nadhani u buheri wa afya na unafuatilia hizi seketa za wanasiasa finyu wa Kenya kila kukicha. awamu hii mpira unapigwa tofauti na hawa mabwana watazunguka nchi nzima kila siku lakini watagundua kua .."Zunguka kila bucha, lakini nyama ni ile ile...tofauti ni mapishi" Mapishi ya Ruto,Kalonzo na Balala yanajulikana na yalipikwa na Moi. Hamna jipya hapo. Na kama usemavyo jamaa wameanza hii lelemama mapema mno na moto utajizima wenyewe tu.Yangu ni macho. Baaden.
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Post by phil on Dec 20, 2009 14:10:48 GMT 3
This rally was a sham.
It does not make sense to spend upwards of 15 million shillings to organise a fundraiser that at the end realizes only 3.5 million shillings? Even that coastal resident is not that stupid!
Even then, after being caught planting bogus squatters in Mau, it does not make sense to keep renting crowds from Nairobi and Kiambu to attend rallies at the coast. Why not let the coast voter attend your rally on his/her own volition? Yes, Raila Odinga must be fought whichever way possible. But this harambee at Mvita was really a KKK campaign rally in disguise.
What a bunch of clueless amateurs!
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Post by tnk on Dec 20, 2009 19:42:50 GMT 3
This rally was a sham. It does not make sense to spend upwards of 15 million shillings to organise a fundraiser that at the end realizes only 3.5 million shillings? Even that coastal resident is not that stupid! ......What a bunch of clueless amateurs! excellent observation. the Mau rally also raised 3.5m it would appear the "fund raiser" benefits or is for the benefit of the "fund raisers" rather than the target pawn both financially and politically. pure con-men in the making
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Post by nereah on Dec 20, 2009 22:17:28 GMT 3
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Post by phil on Dec 21, 2009 1:48:47 GMT 3
Nereah: Thanks for bringing this up. An ODM S/NDC is overdue. This is something that should have been organized many many months ago. Not necessarily to discipline errant members but perhaps if only to re-emphasize the aspirations of the party. The party has been through a lot. The secretariat is dormant and a membership drive is required. The party website needs to be updated and converted into a interactive site with regular updates. The party needs to deliberate many issues. Even more importantly, the Pentagon needs reconstruction as does the NEC. If the ODM wishes to play in the same league as the ANC or the CCM, then it had better start acting and performing as a serious political party.
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Post by kmdo on Dec 21, 2009 2:19:15 GMT 3
THANKS. LOVED THE PDF VERSION.
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Post by shifta on Dec 21, 2009 3:47:30 GMT 3
Ababu: How did Ababu end up in Ruto's camp? Here was someone who made his name nationally because he wanted to swear allegiance to R. What happened to Ababu?
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Post by nereah on Dec 21, 2009 8:02:21 GMT 3
shifta.
quite frankly i don't know what happened to my boy ababu.
at times i think he is an unwitting victim of that foul spirit that often manifest itself in progressives who abandon the struggle, the likes of anyonas,koigis,mwachofis,kenyatta the jomo etc.
ababu may on the other hand be strategically embedded in the anti agwambo's bandwagon.at times these people are more useful to kenyans yearning for change when they sleep with the enemy than cavort with us.
my inkling though is that ababu found himself adrift the moment he missed out in the agwambo's line-up and entertained the official opposition party dream that came a cropper.
lastly, he reminds us the depth the brilliant ruto went in circling raila in his devious schemes of either destabilizing odm and walking out or taking it over.
ruto began his ground work kitambo,ensnaring strategic people in the jungwa party-from the parliamentary secretary to party treasurer and vice chairman to heads of crucial committees like okemo-all who were disgruntled in one way or the other.
you remember ruto camp bragging in one of their rallies that they have strategic point mens in all regions of the country? the ababu-,wamalwa-bifwoli, okemo, jirongo (western) duale, kuti,haji(north eastern),magara(nyanza)-balala(coast)- this iwant to imagine, is the face of it.
the good news is that agwambo's handlers saw it coming and as we glean from kenya's newsfeeds are on a more effective counter strategy.
i am saying my boy ababu is tripping big time and ought to be in counsel with himself. i may be wrong, as usual.
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Post by nereah on Jan 21, 2010 16:18:24 GMT 3
www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/846774/-/vpdy9u/-/index.htmlkweli siasa ni moto moto. political temperature could rise after pnu pulled a fast one on the divided odm block at the naivasha retreat setting stage for kenya’s trickiest plebiscite. my conspiracy theory is that there is a link between the naivasha development where pnu used odm’s weakest link to stage a coup on the people of kenya and kibaki’s,kalonzo,ruto,uhuru and their political bedmates snub of the mau tree planting ceremony. my pesa nane is that kibaki is using the ruto rebellion both to weaken odm inside and outside parliament and also to blackmail odm into pnu’s self preservation. from the look of things, odm high powered team led by musalia mudavadi and james orengo were either too trusting and tactless or were overwhelmed and therefore cowed into submission. i see ruto & co as desperados in every word of it and just like kibaki, are taking full advantage of the adversarial arrangement to make a political kill. the rutos of kenya know that their survival depends on antagonism. however what binds ruto and kibaki camp is, in my theory, more than raila’s adversarial posture.as discussed elsewhere, the hague date is conceivably a common threat which if come to pass will ruin careers and tatter legacies and destroy credibilities. i have just overheard from some eldoret based political mjuaji that ruto’s camp have poisoned kibaki’s mind over the hague porojos. this, according to the mjuaji, kibaki has been made to believe that the hague trials will be damaging to him and his government and must therefore countermand any move to its fruition. the propaganda is that odm high command has in its possession damning evidence linking state house with the post election violence and no one knows what odm is upto.also worth noting is that the naivasha parley’s vote on presidential system ties in well with not just kibaki’s consistent position but also president moi’s. throw in kanu’s uhuru stance then add with ford-k’s kalonzo and not forgetting ruto’s belated switch and you end up with the political matrix that informs kibaki’s succession.now, we can understand where kibaki’s pnu, uhuru and the triple k alliance are coming from with all these. the sad news is that they have betrayed the spirit of the reform that informed the calls for abolition of an imperial presidency, an unelected executive president (a president of kenya will have to relinquish the people’s mandate as elected representive) that they are attempting to impose on kenyans. the good news is that kenyans will still have the last say on the mutilation of their drafted views by twenty something mps at naivasha through the plebiscite. now, back to odm and the options. first and foremost, i must say, ruto being a student of raila, wanted to kill three birds with one stone and he brilliantly did in niavasha. one is that he spoke to the odm’s rank and file on viability of musalia mudavadi as raila’s number two. mudavadi was odm’s lead negotiator at naivasha and the co-chair of the coalition reform dialogue. having ejected our miguna miguna along with his pnu opposite from the venue, odm had only orengo for backup while pnu had wetangula,mutual kilonzo & co. i am saying ruto has upstaged mudavadi who should have known better by forestalling such a move or anticipating it in the first place. two is that ruto was making a statement to agwambo that he has the means,motive and capacity to sabotage,derail or even betray odm’s key objective and commitment to kenyans.
three, by upping the status quo ante, ruto was making his relevance to kibaki known to the kibaki’s core constituency.his intention, in my reading, is to upstage kalonzo in this relevance stratum. don’t be surprised if he becomes the vice president.although agwambo had a pre-naivasha talk with his odm brigade where odm all along projected a common stand,it ought to have occurred to agwambo’s handlers to anticipate the obvious. so, what are the odm’s options? the first option is to go back to the people which makes a lot of sense and in effect set up the pro-naivasha deal mps with the kenyan voters . the second option is to await for parliamentary debate and voting on matter and either scuttle,fillibuster or outrightly blackmail kibaki and pnu into rejecting the naivaisha monster. the other option which i advocate for is to beat the kkk group on its game by first neutralizing the relevance of ruto to kibaki by sucking up to kibaki. quite frankly odm has nothing to lose whether its presidential or parliamentary so it can pull a surprise on pnu by issuing a statement that it is happy with either or the options.my pesa nane.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 21, 2010 21:59:13 GMT 3
nereah
I dont think its correct to say ...."quite frankly odm has nothing to lose whether its presidential or parliamentary so it can pull a surprise on pnu by issuing a statement that it is happy with either or the options..."
ODM has to do what is right.
We gotta have a constitution that makes the Pres accountable, and not a semi - monarch ruling with impunity.
The expulsion of MM is not necessarily a death knell for the talks. MM will point out any bullcrap the Panuaistas have pulled before the final signatures are appended on the document.
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