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Mambo biaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad next patient.
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Post by nereah on Jan 16, 2011 11:36:11 GMT 3
conspiracy theorist, makau the mutuathe dean and suny distinguished professor at the state university of new york at buffalo law school and chair of the khc who i had the chance encounter with, together with sister lynn muthoni at a public forum in nairobi last month, set the stage for siasa moto moto this coming week with his latest conspiracy theory. the ever imaginative makau spews yet another one from his armchair, a far off in the distant shore.hear him: " This is a time of reckoning. Great reformist leaders and statesmen show their true grit at pivotal moments. What will Mr Odinga do? Will he pay lip service to the ICC while winking at Mr Kosgey?
Or will he stand up and be counted? He should read the signs of the times. Kenyans demand change and an end to impunity.details: www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Why%20Ocampo%20could%20derail%20Railas%20plans%20/-/440808/1090228/-/item/1/-/w4kwdh/-/index.html makau with agwambo in usa
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Post by nalinali on Jan 17, 2011 8:13:42 GMT 3
the dean and suny distinguished professor at the state university of new york at buffalo law school and chair of the khc who i had the chance encounter with, together with sister lynn muthoni at a public forum in nairobi last month, set the stage for siasa moto moto this coming week with his latest conspiracy theory. the ever imaginative makau spews yet another one from his armchair, a far off in the distant shore.hear him: " This is a time of reckoning. Great reformist leaders and statesmen show their true grit at pivotal moments. What will Mr Odinga do? Will he pay lip service to the ICC while winking at Mr Kosgey?
Or will he stand up and be counted? He should read the signs of the times. Kenyans demand change and an end to impunity.details: www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Why%20Ocampo%20could%20derail%20Railas%20plans%20/-/440808/1090228/-/item/1/-/w4kwdh/-/index.htmlNereah For all its worth, Makau Mutua’s piece is a mixed bag of sorts. I do agree with some of the issues he raises, but I have a serious misgiving about the terms of his argument which attempt to induct us into the treacherous field of political alibi. The piece is underwritten by a lie similar to many lies being purveyed by impunity in Kenya lately.The basic premise of the article blurs issues by morphing into one the ICC and the 2012 presidential elections.The upshot of the argument presaging Hon Raila’s political fortunes on Ocampo’s juridical preoccupation fits into this lie. I am not saying that Mutua is lying. No. All I am saying is that he has succumbed to the lie that the ICC is all about 2012. This makes his analysis unable to critically march up to the designs of the virulent whims of the status quo and instead appear to be complimenting such whims. This is perhaps not accidental but a tragic testimony to the power of deception emanating from persistent campaign by Ruto-PNU aimed at obfuscating the role of ICC and its presence in Kenya; turning a noble justice seeking function into an instrument of vendetta in the eyes of the public. The horrifying immediacy of the PEV and the need to focus on the victims including the IDPs is pared away and substituted with the grisly ensign of unhinged ambitions and ethnic entitlements that brought us the PEV in the first place. It is one thing to reflect upon the aftermath of the ICC prosecution as a necessary judicial process removed from political posturing. It is quite a different thing to make the 2012 elections a sequitur to such a process, and to frame the basic premise of an argument thus. That a scholar of Mutua’s caliber should succumb to this lie as to frame the terms of his opinion on flawed assumption, is in my humble opinion pitiable. The point at which I agree with his piece and upon which I would add some unsolicited advice of my own is this: Hon Raila needs at this time to conspicuously create noticeable political landscape between his position and that of Kibaki (PNU) on a raft of issues beginning with the ICC; attempts to divert taxpayers money to meet Muthaura’s and Ali’s legal fee; refocusing attention on the trauma of PEV victims/ survivors: enhancing commitment to reform and this should be visible; rallying the greatest majority of MPs to oppose Rutos ICC bill etc. It is true that Raila has expressed his rejection of the misguided attempts to temper with ICC mandate in Kenya. But the general silence from his side of the GCG makes his remarks flaccid at their best. There is no visible effort, as concerted and forceful as we see coming from the Ruto-PNU side-a side that is by all counts feverish in pushing its agenda. There seems to be a general lack of a voice or voices on the ODM side that can string together a persuasive rebuttal in a forceful way in all the media to counter the din that has become the preoccupation of Ruto-PNU groupings. Rachel Shebesh seems to have such a voice but I sometimes get deflated when her usual company at press conferences Hon Mbadi stumbles his ways through statements. Presentation matters and outside of the civil society such a voice is missing. It seems to me that Hon Raila is not aware (if he is he seems not to show it) that the supposed rigging of the 2007 presidential elections was not done in spite of him, but because of him. Nor is he aware (in a visible sense) that Kibaki (and PNU’s) acceptance of the GCG was supposed to set another level of political action to whittle down his (Railas) capacity to run for the presidential office in 2012. That the ethno-centered ruling elite accepted to go along with the GCG as a way of buying time to tame Raila and wittle away his political base in insidious and heinous ways. THis they have achieved/or are achieving by catalyzing only those attributes (real or imagined) that would make as many people as possible buy into the idea that Raila is after all not a good person. No one can deny that the PM had/has been unfairly and contemptuously treated to cast doubts on his capacity to deliver as a leader: Muthaura’s bureaucratic bottlenecks on the PM’s path, Ruto’s campaigns; Treasury's reluctance to promptly support anything that would enhance Raila’s stature, the spreading of blame to include him when convenient etc. etc. When will Hon Raila understand the adage that the spirit of compromise must not give way to the compromise of principles? As it is now, the confusion surrounding critical issues at this time when a smooth implementation of the constitution should be the priority, casts the PM as one who is acting in tandem with the forces of impunity. It should never be said that he compromised his reform credentials at the alter of chance opportunism in the name of compromise. That should be left to Kalonzo.
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Post by roughrider on Jan 17, 2011 19:52:25 GMT 3
the dean and suny distinguished professor at the state university of new york at buffalo law school and chair of the khc who i had the chance encounter with, together with sister lynn muthoni at a public forum in nairobi last month, set the stage for siasa moto moto this coming week with his latest conspiracy theory. the ever imaginative makau spews yet another one from his armchair, a far off in the distant shore.hear him: " This is a time of reckoning. Great reformist leaders and statesmen show their true grit at pivotal moments. What will Mr Odinga do? Will he pay lip service to the ICC while winking at Mr Kosgey?
Or will he stand up and be counted? He should read the signs of the times. Kenyans demand change and an end to impunity.details: www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Why%20Ocampo%20could%20derail%20Railas%20plans%20/-/440808/1090228/-/item/1/-/w4kwdh/-/index.htmlNereah For all its worth, Makau Mutua’s piece is a mixed bag of sorts. I do agree with some of the issues he raises, but I have a serious misgiving about the terms of his argument which attempt to induct us into the treacherous field of political alibi. The piece is underwritten by a lie similar to many lies being purveyed by impunity in Kenya lately.The basic premise of the article blurs issues by morphing into one the ICC and the 2012 presidential elections.The upshot of the argument presaging Hon Raila’s political fortunes on Ocampo’s juridical preoccupation fits into this lie. I am not saying that Mutua is lying. No. All I am saying is that he has succumbed to the lie that the ICC is all about 2012. This makes his analysis unable to critically march up to the designs of the virulent whims of the status quo and instead appear to be complimenting such whims. This is perhaps not accidental but a tragic testimony to the power of deception emanating from persistent campaign by Ruto-PNU aimed at obfuscating the role of ICC and its presence in Kenya; turning a noble justice seeking function into an instrument of vendetta in the eyes of the public. The horrifying immediacy of the PEV and the need to focus on the victims including the IDPs is pared away and substituted with the grisly ensign of unhinged ambitions and ethnic entitlements that brought us the PEV in the first place. It is one thing to reflect upon the aftermath of the ICC prosecution as a necessary judicial process removed from political posturing. It is quite a different thing to make the 2012 elections a sequitur to such a process, and to frame the basic premise of an argument thus. That a scholar of Mutua’s caliber should succumb to this lie as to frame the terms of his opinion on flawed assumption, is in my humble opinion pitiable. The point at which I agree with his piece and upon which I would add some unsolicited advice of my own is this: Hon Raila needs at this time to conspicuously create noticeable political landscape between his position and that of Kibaki (PNU) on a raft of issues beginning with the ICC; attempts to divert taxpayers money to meet Muthaura’s and Ali’s legal fee; refocusing attention on the trauma of PEV victims/ survivors: enhancing commitment to reform and this should be visible; rallying the greatest majority of MPs to oppose Rutos ICC bill etc. It is true that Raila has expressed his rejection of the misguided attempts to temper with ICC mandate in Kenya. But the general silence from his side of the GCG makes his remarks flaccid at their best. There is no visible effort, as concerted and forceful as we see coming from the Ruto-PNU side-a side that is by all counts feverish in pushing its agenda. There seems to be a general lack of a voice or voices on the ODM side that can string together a persuasive rebuttal in a forceful way in all the media to counter the din that has become the preoccupation of Ruto-PNU groupings. Rachel Shebesh seems to have such a voice but I sometimes get deflated when her usual company at press conferences Hon Mbadi stumbles his ways through statements. Presentation matters and outside of the civil society such a voice is missing. It seems to me that Hon Raila is not aware (if he is he seems not to show it) that the supposed rigging of the 2007 presidential elections was not done in spite of him, but because of him. Nor is he aware (in a visible sense) that Kibaki (and PNU’s) acceptance of the GCG was supposed to set another level of political action to whittle down his (Railas) capacity to run for the presidential office in 2012. That the ethno-centered ruling elite accepted to go along with the GCG as a way of buying time to tame Raila and wittle away his political base in insidious and heinous ways. THis they have achieved/or are achieving by catalyzing only those attributes (real or imagined) that would make as many people as possible buy into the idea that Raila is after all not a good person. No one can deny that the PM had/has been unfairly and contemptuously treated to cast doubts on his capacity to deliver as a leader: Muthaura’s bureaucratic bottlenecks on the PM’s path, Ruto’s campaigns; Treasury's reluctance to promptly support anything that would enhance Raila’s stature, the spreading of blame to include him when convenient etc. etc. When will Hon Raila understand the adage that the spirit of compromise must not give way to the compromise of principles? As it is now, the confusion surrounding critical issues at this time when a smooth implementation of the constitution should be the priority, casts the PM as one who is acting in tandem with the forces of impunity. It should never be said that he compromised his reform credentials at the alter of chance opportunism in the name of compromise. That should be left to Kalonzo. Both Makau Mutua and Nalinali are wrong in different ways. Makau is wrong to completely assume that the Ocampo issue is what will make or break Raila Odinga. This type of partial analysis falls far short. Politics everywhere, but particularly in Africa is driven by a melting pot of issues and interests. No single thing on its own can make or break. William Ruto is not leaving ODM because of the ICC: he started leaving long before the 2007 elections and long before we knew Hague would be a reality. ODM is not the type of party that resonates with his political upbringing and interests. His presence was always forced. Nalinali, I think it is naïve to think that the Hague process does not have political implications. They could be positive or negative for Raila depending on the position he takes and how this is communicated to the people. In the end a patriotic progressive position that fights for justice while treacherous in the short term, will pay long term dividends. Now on to a few personal thoughts: I have to say that I find many people including Makau Mutua do not understand Raila Odinga. Raila learnt the most important lesson from his father’s failures: pragmatism. Jaramogi was too idealistic to survive Kenyan politics. Raila is a different animal. With NDP he knew he would not be president but he still knew he needed the NDP numbers as a bargaining chip with Moi. With these numbers in 1997 and political cunning he claimed the central and most important spot in Kenyan politics. It is not a coincidence that over the past 12 years of Raila’s overwhelming political presence, Kenya has been transformed politically and economically in ways previously only the stuff of dreams. With this background, I have learnt to approach headlines of ‘Raila under siege’ with amused derision.
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Post by nalinali on Jan 17, 2011 20:56:21 GMT 3
Nalinali, I think it is naïve to think that the Hague process does not have political implications. They could be positive or negative for Raila depending on the position he takes and how this is communicated to the people. In the end a patriotic progressive position that fights for justice while treacherous in the short term, will pay long term dividends. May be I should have paid greater attention to a nuanced distinction in my argument about Makau's article. While you are right that the Hague process has political implications, you side step my caution against the temptation to frame one as the raison d'être for the other. That is is the point I am making,and for a good reason. It is simply wrong at this time in Kenya's political discourse to lend credence, in whichever way, to such correlation as a given. It is not. One does not get far by feeding such a perception particularity when it is being deployed to obscure the singular facts surrounding the ICC, justice for PEV and 2012 election.
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Post by nereah on Feb 3, 2011 12:12:47 GMT 3
Miguna Miguna is quoted in one of todays dailies with lucid arguement. 1. PM and Kibaki were signatories to the National Accord and a successful vote against the PM in the House means end of the current parliament. 2. As things stands, there is no alternative to the PM given that the only recognised opposition party is one man Jirongo Party. 3.That ousting Agwambo from party leadership in ODM is untenable given the party constitutional immunity that gaurantees him full term stint. I keep warning about Miguna's interpretation of the Law if he has been quoted correctly. He knows there is no requirement for a new parliament should the PM be thrown out of office by parliament. Th first schedule of NARA clearly says that the PM and the DPM's can only be removed if the National Assembly passes a vote of no confidence with a majority vote. so whats say you if kibaki unexpectedly exit from power? will the same applies?
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Post by nereah on Feb 3, 2011 12:40:46 GMT 3
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Post by commes on Feb 3, 2011 12:46:50 GMT 3
That is a powerful and sobering statement by Mister Mapambano. I beg to take early leave to watch the landmark ruling on the unconstitutional nominees. There will be more meat for discussion from there.
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Post by nereah on Feb 3, 2011 15:16:26 GMT 3
as i was catching up with local happenings as published in kenyan newspapers, i came across the following three items published in the star and which may help explain the shenanigans that is feeding the nairobi's chattering class and media frenzy.
1. that there is a new powerful cabal operating at state house known as the queensway group,made up of elements from banking industry, bureaucrats,corporate chieftains and all that. this group was set up or rather emerged after the ocampo strike with only one purpose: to protect two members of the ocampo six. the group is reportedly the mastermind of the recent shuttle diplomacy where kenyan taxpayers money amounting to sh 5 million was used.
2.that a cabinet minister was shocked when he submitted names( of state corporation appointees under his ministry for gazettement) to the secretary in the op and was directed to the dpm at the treasury for clearance(vetting of the names) before his list of appointees could be gazetted;
3.that early this week in bunge, money reportedly changed hands with mps getting between 30k and 100k depending on their "political weight'.the mps were being bribed to vote for the kibaki list in event that they were tabled for approval or their vote was required for the purpose.
source: the star,kenya,feb 3rd 2011.
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Post by nereah on Feb 5, 2011 23:15:50 GMT 3
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Post by dola121945 on Feb 6, 2011 3:25:48 GMT 3
Nereah, your dossier is always intriguing, ... so some bwana kubwas were being given pesa kidogo so as to buy their support. At times I really wonder about these MPs, they are among one of the best paid MPs in the world, and yet they can be bought for some chum change here and there. Kwani what do they do with their money each month?They are such greedy hyena's, and pretty soon they are going to loose both prizes.
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Post by nereah on Feb 6, 2011 19:35:54 GMT 3
Nereah, your dossier is always intriguing, ... so some bwana kubwas were being given pesa kidogo so as to buy their support. At times I really wonder about these MPs, they are among one of the best paid MPs in the world, and yet they can be bought for some chum change here and there. Kwani what do they do with their money each month?They are such greedy hyena's, and pretty soon they are going to loose both prizes. dola ;D nice seeing you and welcome back to jukwaa. jukwaa can be lonely without the sisters like you.the brothers have been nice though. now, as i am telling nowayahya, the latest issue of the must read nairobi law monthlytackles the perceived avarice and moral bankruptcy of kenyan parliament and parliamentarians. it gives an apt description and is as graphic as it can get on how an institution that we have entrusted with our sovereignty is the most dubious in the region. an auction house, it calls bunge.it boldly declares what has been whispered here in jukwaa and is evident to any discerning observer. my fear is that those washington type lobbyists have taken over nairobi.check kenyan parliament website and the hansard and see how serious questions on order paper are either hushed through reference to committee or mysteriously dropped.this is just a tip of the iceberg.the mainstream media as nation's led story(see the intro)confirms,is aware but is apparently complicit or coward.
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Post by nereah on Feb 26, 2011 22:22:55 GMT 3
after much restraint,almost coy and at best diplomatic in mien,odm seems to be heeding mama rainbow's advice of adversarial approach to contest with its rivals and detractors(remember the toa gloves exhortation at the famous uhuru park rally?. odm had for that long restraint against slanging match with or provocation against coalition partners pnu and odm rebels. gumo said as much during the burial of the father of my boy ababu tawfiq namwamba three weeks ago.there had been hope that the permanent committee for resolving politically engineered disputes in the grand coalition would be handy but as our miguna miguna informs us,this is not so. ruto is clutching on the old story of kisumu molasses plant acquisition as a propaganda weapon against raila we now have scenario of pnu using odm rebels to undermine and possible oust prime minister,a principal in the grand coalition government. and so we are in a situation where such moves as the one by ogindo(see the trending thread in kenya politics)is coming up almost the same time that pnu's honcho, kioni is set to table motion against pm in parliament. the siasa moto moto bit is that odm which has been circumspect all along is now bullish.hear dpm,mudavadi's bold attack against kalonzo the musyoka at muliro garden earlier today.it speaks volume. on the other front, ruto is strumming the old tune of molasses as he fight back raila's public rebuke to what the star says are "individuals who love drinking,smoking bhang and stealing' "some people wake up to look for alcohol while others wake up to smoke bhang as others seek what to steal..... they are looking for land to steal here and there and they spend all their time in court defending one case after another," the pm is quoted in latest issue of the star under the banner headline :my opponents are drunks,thieves-raila" it appears that the high season of politics is nigh and as noisy and nasty as it gets,it may as well help shake off the pent up frustration in the public space. odm is apparently out to galvanize the people even as kibaki friendly parties fine tune their strategy to cause raila a major upset in bunge through their numerical strength.one of the strategy,according to nairobi insiders, is to cause a massive walkout in odm(which explains ruto's show in north eastern)resulting in a by-election in these constituencies which,according to plan,will be zoned off. fact is kkk is sparing no resources to have the last laugh against odm which is set for grassroot elections in a months time. kweli siasa ni moto moto!
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Post by mzee on Feb 26, 2011 22:56:36 GMT 3
Nereah, I few MP´s even the ones hailing from South and North rift will never take the bold step of quiting ODM. And even if they did that, there is no guarantee that they will be re-elected. My observation is that a few Mp`s would actually risk the 1m/month they are currently enjoying.
I think that they better bring on the so called vote of no confidence. RAO cannot be under continuous threat by the Ocampo boys. If they remove from the post, which I doubt they could, so be it.
But as you said, it seems that gloves are off.
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Post by nereah on Feb 26, 2011 22:56:39 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Feb 26, 2011 23:13:26 GMT 3
mzee and all,i think the coming weeks are decisive in kenyan political history. ocampo had psychologically prepared us for his inevitable strike and as makau the mutua opines here www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/High+stakes+game+as+date+with+ICC+draws+near+/-/440808/1115316/-/rlwlh3/-/index.html this may as well be the ultimate test for the kibaki-raila affair. come to think of it, odm and pnu have been at war ever since, the only difference is that odm had been subterranean while kibaki/ruto is kind of,should we say scorch earth. someone in our midst here asked jukwaa to watch out for march 4 2011 which is just six days away. i think odm is alive to the fact that mzee kibaki and ruto are upto no good and may inflict a permanent damage way ahead of the anticipated ocampo strike. something also seems to be happening in kenya that i find curious.may be its to do with the pending or ongoing transition from the old order to the new kenya.there is a level of anxiety and restlessness even in the public service cadre. all eyes are especially on the judiciary/prosecution security agency reforms where as you know,virtually all the key actors are in one way or another have stakes. think of the pending land commission and imagine the stakes. then there is the electoral boundaries reforms(ligale commission,remember is bogged down in court) and so most if not all of the agenda four is suspended on political battle between reformists and non reformist. odm and agwambo who vegeterian ugandan journalist, onyango obbo cheekily referred to as an expired leftist, are up against the biggest challenge.should we say this is the last stand against the old order,the long drawn battle for a better kenya. if odm and raila loses this,kenya is done, i tell you.
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Post by mzee on Feb 26, 2011 23:49:03 GMT 3
nereah, I think that this is the last stand against the old order. Time has come to kick them out once and for all. The Ocampo boys have upped the war like never before. Yes, they are currently using all means at their disposal, might it be intimidation, threats of murder, bribery, derailing the implementation of constitution, imposing stooges in the judiciary and you name it.
The person whom they think stands between them and the derailment of the constitution is one Raila Amollo Odinga. He seems to oppose every ugly move that Kibaki tries to the disgust of the KKK.
At the heart of this is the HAGUE issue. There is no effort spared to make sure the the Ocampo six never see Hague. This is a life and death situation for Uhuru and Ruto. They figure that if Kibaki cannot set up a fake local tribunal then they themselves must become president and vice president to do so. They also believe that those posts might protect them, for they would simply do a Bashir.
But to be president, they must beat their hate object RAO. You can now see why there is anger and frustration. It seems that at every point RAO is hindering them from achieving their malicious dreams.
The jitters of the past few weeks will calm down after the much awaited "March 2011" event. For the victims of 2008-2009 violence, this is going to be a victory but for the Ocampo boys a new chapter in the lives will open. It will be a fight to the death. Not with Raila but Ocampo.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 27, 2011 2:54:31 GMT 3
the siasa moto moto bit is that odm which has been circumspect all along is now bullish.hear dpm,mudavadi's bold attack against kalonzo the musyoka at muliro garden earlier today.it speaks volume. Nereah, I saw that clip you refer to on Mudavadi trying to attack Kalonzo and I was like OMG, why is ODM forcing Mudavadi to play this character assassination kind of polics. I mean you need to be what Kamale refers to as a pathological liar to play ODMs brand of politics. Mudavadi is not and the man was clearly struggling with himself here: www.youtube.com/user/NTVKenya#p/a/u/1/mFCvI1l_UhIYou cant help but notice that the poor fellow is held between two minds; on the one hand, he knows clearly that Kalonzos shuttle diplomacy has delivered very positive results at least for now, yet on the other hand his own boss's ill fated attempted mediation in Abidjan had not only lost lots of money, but failed misserably. The less we hear about it the better.
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Post by mank on Feb 27, 2011 6:49:47 GMT 3
.... I still maintain that Ruto must be Fired so that Rebels within ODM can know who the LEADER is and that they owe him respect and they are serving because of his appointment... Hail the upcoming king almighty!
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Post by nereah on Nov 13, 2011 17:09:40 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Mar 3, 2012 19:46:29 GMT 3
here is the nairobi based vegeterian ugandan journalist with the help of a female colleague renders a nuanced outlook on the kibaki succession. very moto mototinyurl.com/7bmhmzy
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