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Post by job on Oct 1, 2011 2:41:19 GMT 3
In April last year, Lewis Nguyai's driver, Jackson Ogolla was shot dead a few meters from the King'eero police station.
Watch this clip to see how the MP is pursing towards "increased crime wave in the area"...blaming "police"...and how THE BOSS Uhuru Kenyatta's TV station K-24 skews the reporting...
We just heard today at the ICC how this Nguyai fella talks and talks and talks....I bet...even in the car...on phone.... or to the driver...
Was someone afraid his driver could have been knowing too much?
A lot of house-keeping must have been done to extra-judicially eliminate lots of folks preceding this ICC case.
It's the end of the road - these Mungiki thugs in suits, straddling top government, shall deceive Kenyans no more!
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Post by gachquota on Oct 1, 2011 3:10:15 GMT 3
This is mungiki group killed this guy I hope Okampo gets diz clip 4 trials koz am sure we going 4 trials.
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Post by nok on Oct 1, 2011 4:34:19 GMT 3
In April last year, Lewis Nguyai's driver, Jackson Ogolla was shot dead a few meters from the King'eero police station. Watch this clip to see how the MP is pursing towards "increased crime wave in the area"...blaming "police"...and how THE BOSS Uhuru Kenyatta's TV station K-24 skews the reporting... We just heard today at the ICC how this Nguyai fella talks and talks and talks....I bet...even in the car...on phone.... or to the driver... Was someone afraid his driver could have been knowing too much? A lot of house-keeping must have been done to extra-judicially eliminate lots of folks preceding this ICC case. It's the end of the road - these Mungiki thugs in suits, straddling top government, shall deceive Kenyans no more!  K24 News Channel |
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Post by politicalmaniac on Oct 1, 2011 20:01:56 GMT 3
Wow
So Job, what you are telling me is this.
Its a professional hazard to work for this mafiyans?
they sent Mungiki to do their dirty work in Naivasha and Nakuru and then promptly filled the go-between Mungiki leaders.
Now they killed this driver to 'tie up a loose end', just like they killed the snr policeman in his house on the NBI outskirts a few months ago.
WTF is wrong with these mafiyan mofos?
Seems they completely lost their marbles after the 24yr kipkorios era and swore NEVER again to be on the out - looking in!
Guess what thats where these mofos will be come the next election.
WTF?
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 1, 2011 20:23:34 GMT 3
Nguyai in court claimed that the Mungiki used to wait for him when he drove to Jacaranda hotel and come to his car.. he usually talked to them while sitting in his car.. The Driver was ofcourse privy to all that was discussed between Nguyai and the Mungiki members while he waited in the Car for his Boss to finish discussions with the Mungiki members.. Then it surely makes sense once the Hague issue come up and witnesses pin pointed Nguyai.. he had to eliminated anyone who knew or had information that could directly connect him to the Mungiki membership.. The Driver was of them, In kenya especially Drivers see and hear plenty of their bosses communications, who they meet because drivers usually drop OFF their bosses for meetings and even park their vehicles to wait for them to finalize meeting to drop them back to their offices or home..
The Driver must have talked to someone, in regard to what he was seeing or what he heard? I wonder if one can follow up with those who he was in contact with like some of his friends e.t.c the problem then is that they would be putting their life's at risk because those who killed Nguyai's driver OGOLLA were never found and i trust they will never be found since it was a hit job!
Who would wan to Kill a driver? they must have been following him or communicating in this age of cell phone.. they must have known that he had just dropped Nguyai Home in order for them to wait for him at his own gate at home...
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Post by tactician on Oct 1, 2011 21:18:11 GMT 3
Raila's maid (house servant) died the other day cos of suspected CO poisoning.
Could she have heard too much of what was happening in Raila's house & had to be exterminated?
Did she hear discussions of Raila's diabolical plan to discredit the IIEC?
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Post by Mr Defence on Oct 1, 2011 21:34:32 GMT 3
Raila's maid (house servant) died the other day cos of suspected CO poisoning. Could she have heard too much of what was happening in Raila's house & had to be exterminated? Did she hear discussions of Raila's diabolical plan to discredit the IIEC? hehehehe tactician! What tactic is this? ;D |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 1, 2011 22:02:47 GMT 3
Raila's maid (house servant) died the other day cos of suspected CO poisoning. Could she have heard too much of what was happening in Raila's house & had to be exterminated? Did she hear discussions of Raila's diabolical plan to discredit the IIEC? Never heard of Maids in Kenya who shares bedrooms with their employers listening in to their conversations? that is news to me Maids serve, food clean and look after employers family, they do not even sit with the employer in the living room or let alone the bedrooms unless the maids have hidden camera's placed in each room ;D there is no comparison when it comes to housemaids listening in and a Driver who is driving the Boss.. and as we know many of those bosses are always on cell phones discussing important issues.. but in the case of Nguyai he explained how when he drove to Jacaranda Hotel Mungiki were usually waiting..for him and he conversed with them while sitting in his car!! that was clearly explained by Nguyai, and who was driving him while he conversed with the Mungiki parked at the Jacaranda parking lots? Ogolla.. |
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Post by b6k on Oct 2, 2011 0:00:46 GMT 3
Then it surely makes sense once the Hague issue come up and witnesses pin pointed Nguyai.. he had to eliminated anyone who knew or had information that could directly connect him to the Mungiki membership.. The Driver was of them, 911, there you go again with your cyclopse induced myopic vision. Did you even bother to check the timeline? Ogolla was killed last year in April. UK was summoned by Ocampo a full 8 months later on December 15th last year. Considering the PNU side did not expect to be suspects in ICC, not only do you expect us to believe that UK is the leader of Mungiki but that he had a premonition that the matter would go to trial in THE HAGUE & the driver would have to be eliminated? Boy do you need prayers. Then it surely makes sense once the Hague issue come up and witnesses pin pointed Nguyai.. he had to eliminated anyone who knew or had information that could directly connect him to the Mungiki membership.. The Driver was of them, 911, there you go again with your cyclopse induced myopic vision. Did you even bother to check the timeline? Ogolla was killed last year in April. UK was summoned by Ocampo a full 8 months later on December 15th last year. Considering the PNU side did not expect to be suspects in ICC, not only do you expect us to believe that UK is the leader of Mungiki but that he had a premonition that the matter would go to trial in THE HAGUE & the driver would have to be eliminated? Boy do you need prayers. |
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Post by mank on Oct 2, 2011 0:03:39 GMT 3
Propaganda unleashed.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Oct 2, 2011 0:13:06 GMT 3
Raila's maid (house servant) died the other day cos of suspected CO poisoning. Could she have heard too much of what was happening in Raila's house & had to be exterminated? Did she hear discussions of Raila's diabolical plan to discredit the IIEC? I could almost hear your loud laughter at the fertile imagination. |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 2, 2011 2:03:16 GMT 3
Then it surely makes sense once the Hague issue come up and witnesses pin pointed Nguyai.. he had to eliminated anyone who knew or had information that could directly connect him to the Mungiki membership.. The Driver was of them, 911, there you go again with your cyclopse induced myopic vision. Did you even bother to check the timeline? Ogolla was killed last year in April. UK was summoned by Ocampo a full 8 months later on December 15th last year. Considering the PNU side did not expect to be suspects in ICC, not only do you expect us to believe that UK is the leader of Mungiki but that he had a premonition that the matter would go to trial in THE HAGUE & the driver would have to be eliminated? Boy do you need prayers. Then it surely makes sense once the Hague issue come up and witnesses pin pointed Nguyai.. he had to eliminated anyone who knew or had information that could directly connect him to the Mungiki membership.. The Driver was of them, 911, there you go again with your cyclopse induced myopic vision. Did you even bother to check the timeline? Ogolla was killed last year in April. UK was summoned by Ocampo a full 8 months later on December 15th last year. Considering the PNU side did not expect to be suspects in ICC, not only do you expect us to believe that UK is the leader of Mungiki but that he had a premonition that the matter would go to trial in THE HAGUE & the driver would have to be eliminated? Boy do you need prayers. Time line is very key as you mentioned! did Ocampo's team approach the driver? since it seems they have witnesses "Mungiki" pointing a finger to Nguyai? that is why nguyai was brought in as Mr. "BOSS" as the mungiki members refer to him! did they eliminate Ogolla before Ocampo got to him? You seem to have all the inside scope of Nguyai & Mr. "BOSS" Uhuru Kenyatta, please do enlighten Kenyans why Ogolla was Killed at his gate right after dropping of his boss Nguyai at his house? why Kill a driver? with todays cell phone communications the killers must have known that Ogolla had already dropped off his boss! they were after Ogolla for a reason..after Nguyai's big talk at ICC.. " the mungiki always waited for him when he arrived at the jacaranda Hotel, and he talked to them while seated in his car! who else was in that Car? OGOLLA THE DRIVER period.. You can spin until your tale until you turn blue black in your face..it aint panning out!  . |
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Post by mank on Oct 2, 2011 6:28:54 GMT 3
911, there you go again with your cyclopse induced myopic vision. Did you even bother to check the timeline? Ogolla was killed last year in April. UK was summoned by Ocampo a full 8 months later on December 15th last year. Considering the PNU side did not expect to be suspects in ICC, not only do you expect us to believe that UK is the leader of Mungiki but that he had a premonition that the matter would go to trial in THE HAGUE & the driver would have to be eliminated? Boy do you need prayers. 911, there you go again with your cyclopse induced myopic vision. Did you even bother to check the timeline? Ogolla was killed last year in April. UK was summoned by Ocampo a full 8 months later on December 15th last year. Considering the PNU side did not expect to be suspects in ICC, not only do you expect us to believe that UK is the leader of Mungiki but that he had a premonition that the matter would go to trial in THE HAGUE & the driver would have to be eliminated? Boy do you need prayers. Time line is very key as you mentioned! did Ocampo's team approach the driver? since it seems they have witnesses "Mungiki" pointing a finger to Nguyai? that is why nguyai was brought in as Mr. "BOSS" as the mungiki members refer to him! did they eliminate Ogolla before Ocampo got to him? You seem to have all the inside scope of Nguyai & Mr. "BOSS" Uhuru Kenyatta, please do enlighten Kenyans why Ogolla was Killed at his gate right after dropping of his boss Nguyai at his house? why Kill a driver? with todays cell phone communications the killers must have known that Ogolla had already dropped off his boss! they were after Ogolla for a reason..after Nguyai's big talk at ICC.. " the mungiki always waited for him when he arrived at the jacaranda Hotel, and he talked to them while seated in his car! who else was in that Car? OGOLLA THE DRIVER period..
You can spin until your tale until you turn blue black in your face..it aint panning out! . Reporter, ease up on yourself. You could burst a vain yet the fight is misplaced. |
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 2, 2011 7:45:12 GMT 3
Time line is very key as you mentioned! did Ocampo's team approach the driver? since it seems they have witnesses "Mungiki" pointing a finger to Nguyai? that is why nguyai was brought in as Mr. "BOSS" as the mungiki members refer to him! did they eliminate Ogolla before Ocampo got to him? You seem to have all the inside scope of Nguyai & Mr. "BOSS" Uhuru Kenyatta, please do enlighten Kenyans why Ogolla was Killed at his gate right after dropping of his boss Nguyai at his house? why Kill a driver? with todays cell phone communications the killers must have known that Ogolla had already dropped off his boss! they were after Ogolla for a reason..after Nguyai's big talk at ICC.. " the mungiki always waited for him when he arrived at the jacaranda Hotel, and he talked to them while seated in his car! who else was in that Car? OGOLLA THE DRIVER period..
You can spin until your tale until you turn blue black in your face..it aint panning out! . Reporter, ease up on yourself. You could burst a vain yet the fight is misplaced. Mank I thought Jukwaa board was for everyone to give their own opinions, why are you on my case? and not other members that are posting on here topic's that i'm replying to? keep off my back please, .. you are not here to tell me when to post or not too.. if you want to ease off the topic be my guest.. |
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Post by b6k on Oct 2, 2011 7:45:33 GMT 3
FACT: Ogolla was shot dead in April 2010.
FACT: UK was charged in December 2010.
FICTION: UK ordered Ogolla killed 8 months before he was charged because he had foreknowledge that he would be charged. Yikes!
Sadly for you 911, UK isn't even at the ICC for Ogolla's death. Try sticking to the facts & comment on the evidence before the court, not the universe as seen through your selectively skewed monocle.
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 2, 2011 7:59:04 GMT 3
FACT: Ogolla was shot dead in April 2010. FACT: UK was charged in December 2010. FICTION: UK ordered Ogolla killed 8 months before he was charged because he had foreknowledge that he would be charged. Yikes! Sadly for you 911, UK isn't even at the ICC for Ogolla's death. Try sticking to the facts & comment on the evidence before the court, not the universe as seen through your selectively skewed monocle. Facts are before Uhuru Kenyatta was charged Evidence was being collected by the Ocampo team before charging for crimes against humanity!! and that is why Nguyai was brought by Uhuru Kenyatta as a witness because the prosecution has witnesses that Link Nguyai to the Mungiki gang! lets not try to sweep the facts under the carpet..was Uhuru Kenyatta charged before the evidence against him was collected? HELL NO!!how about if Ogolla was alive today just maybe he would have been one of the prosecutors witnesses eh? just like Uhuru Kenyatta brought Nguyai as his witness!!i wonder why some people here are fighting tooth and nail to delink Ogalla's death from the on going investigations? maybe they know something Kenyans are not away of ala!! Uhuru kenyatta was charged in December after evidence was collected against him!! Ogalla including many Mungiki gang members said to have attended some of the State house meetings e.t.c and known to have organised and taken part in the murders & slaughters of innocent Kenyans during the 2007-8 were gunned down in the same fashion.. after it was announced that the case was being taken up at the HAGUE.. |
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Post by b6k on Oct 2, 2011 8:15:49 GMT 3
So now Ogolla was at state house?
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Post by reporter911 on Oct 2, 2011 9:53:29 GMT 3
So now Ogolla was at state house? Was He? you tell us? who drove Nguyai to Statehouse? Ogolla was with Nguyai when he was meeting the Mungiki members outside the Jacaranda Hotel on several occasions, or did Nguyai have another Drivers? during and after the 200-2008 clashes until the death of Ogolla.. give us the scope.. you seem to know more than most Kenyans in regards to the relationship between Ogolla,Nguyai and Uhuru Kenyatta, I prefer using his full name instead of the "UK"camouflage! |
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Post by cheshirecat on Oct 2, 2011 11:07:58 GMT 3
In April last year, Lewis Nguyai's driver, Jackson Ogolla was shot dead a few meters from the King'eero police station. Watch this clip to see how the MP is pursing towards "increased crime wave in the area"...blaming "police"...and how THE BOSS Uhuru Kenyatta's TV station K-24 skews the reporting... We just heard today at the ICC how this Nguyai fella talks and talks and talks....I bet...even in the car...on phone.... or to the driver... Was someone afraid his driver could have been knowing too much? A lot of house-keeping must have been done to extra-judicially eliminate lots of folks preceding this ICC case. It's the end of the road - these Mungiki thugs in suits, straddling top government, shall deceive Kenyans no more! Complete load of rubbish. Reminds me of a group of market women gossiping. One gossip starts of a blatant lie and the rest of the gossips chip in. Yet all knowing that what they are talking about is fiction. Ist actually rather sad if you think about it. However I see you are still hell bent on your rather sad mission to fix 'these pesky kikuyus'. Moved from fictional lists of kikuyus to fictional accounts of crime scenes. Good luck. PS; A man can do much much more with his life than this. Just look at what people like Mboya and Wangari achieved. |
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Post by mank on Oct 2, 2011 11:13:26 GMT 3
Reporter, ease up on yourself. You could burst a vain yet the fight is misplaced. Reporter, peace in abundance is all I ask. I do not think I said anything so deserving of your condemning words. I should have been warned though, your tongue is for ever peppery ... like the spike in a wasp's ass. Jukwaa is your space, Reporter. Come the Light. |
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Post by nok on Oct 2, 2011 11:23:55 GMT 3
In April last year, Lewis Nguyai's driver, Jackson Ogolla was shot dead a few meters from the King'eero police station. Watch this clip to see how the MP is pursing towards "increased crime wave in the area"...blaming "police"...and how THE BOSS Uhuru Kenyatta's TV station K-24 skews the reporting... We just heard today at the ICC how this Nguyai fella talks and talks and talks....I bet...even in the car...on phone.... or to the driver... Was someone afraid his driver could have been knowing too much? A lot of house-keeping must have been done to extra-judicially eliminate lots of folks preceding this ICC case. It's the end of the road - these Mungiki thugs in suits, straddling top government, shall deceive Kenyans no more! Complete load of rubbish. Reminds me of a group of market women gossiping. One gossip starts of a blatant lie and the rest of the gossips chip in. Yet all knowing that what they are talking about is fiction. Ist actually rather sad if you think about it. However I see you are still hell bent on your rather sad mission to fix 'these pesky kikuyus'. Moved from fictional lists of kikuyus to fictional accounts of crime scenes. Good luck. PS; A man can do much much more with his life than this. Just look at what people like Mboya and Wangari achieved. If you know more, then enlighten us please!. I being one of the gossipers would really appreciate it!. And by the way; what have you achieved ? Are you of the Maathai or Mboya pedigree ? Most likelyI don't see why you are attacking Job on a personal level. Please remain factual. |
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Post by kasuku on Oct 2, 2011 11:45:04 GMT 3
Complete load of rubbish. Reminds me of a group of market women gossiping. One gossip starts of a blatant lie and the rest of the gossips chip in. Yet all knowing that what they are talking about is fiction. Ist actually rather sad if you think about it. However I see you are still hell bent on your rather sad mission to fix 'these pesky kikuyus'. Moved from fictional lists of kikuyus to fictional accounts of crime scenes. Good luck. PS; A man can do much much more with his life than this. Just look at what people like Mboya and Wangari achieved.
If you know more, then enlighten us please!.
I being one of the gossipers would really appreciate it!.
And by the way; what have you achieved ?
Are you of the Maathai or Mboya pedigree ? Most likely
I don't see why you are attacking Job on a personal level.
Please remain factual. Am sensing a systematic attemt to kill this thread. I think Job has found a ticking bomb |
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Post by phil on Oct 2, 2011 12:16:16 GMT 3
Well there are tens of persons directly linked to Mungiki who have been murdered in unexplained circumstances.
@chesirecat ought to spare Jukwaa this misguided holier than thou attitude. Someone very close to an ICC defendant witness gets killed and you so contemptuously equate it to a market gossip. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
And while at it, what exactly is that your hero Mboya did that others have not done? Have you conveniently forgotten that Mboya's death too was a daylight assassination much similar to those presently being visited upon Mungiki suspects, and that culprits are walking freely in Nairobi? You do not see anything wrong with this, right?
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Post by b6k on Oct 2, 2011 12:25:43 GMT 3
The problem with ODM'ers on this blog is that any one of them can throw up (pun intended) the wackiest of conspiracy theories & the rest of the mob consumes them with relish & voila...they become the cardinal truth.
Folks, temper your theories with a bit of reality. That way you will better manage your expectations & will be less likely to be disappointed when things at the ICC do not go according to the script as written by the doyens at Orange House.
Is that really too much to ask for from people I assume to be enlightened Kenyans? No wonder the ordinary ODM'er in the streets or the farms is quick to take up arms when things don't go according to plan.
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Post by phil on Oct 2, 2011 13:14:05 GMT 3
b6kPray - how does ODM come into this debate? You continue to sound like a broken record with you constant anti-ODM statements, a party which no one has been forced to be a member. What's this obsession you have with ODM? Its a free world and you are free to join any of the many other parties in the country or even start your own perfect party. Hell, you can even stay partyless if you so wish, but for crying out loud, let ODM be! I also wonder how you always want to brand bloggers as ODMers as if membership Jukwaa has a way of determining political affiliations. And why do you always want to make statements that undermine ODM and make it seem like its a capital offense to have any association with this party? Go ahead and start an anti-ODM thread if you may but let this thread discuss and debate the circumnstances sorrounding Mr. Ogolla's murder. As you can see absolutely nothing to do with ODM!
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