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Post by phil on Mar 2, 2011 21:21:53 GMT 3
KTN Prime has just reported that ODM has now written to the Registrar of Political Parties saying that it has expelled Chepalungu MP Isaac Ruto and Assistant Minister Aden Duale as members of the Orange Democratic Movement party.
The move follows the registrar advise earlier today that it was upon the party to decide what disciplinary measure to visit upon members it considered errant, a challenge promptly taken by ODM.
The unpresedented move to expel the two MPs allied to Eldoret North MP William Ruto promises to be controversial and that which will be bitterly contested by the UDM-headed MPs.
The registrar of polical parties is now expected to write to the Speaker of National Assembly to delare both seats vacant. A by-election in both constituencies will be the first all out political contest between ODM and UDM.
More later.
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Post by kamalet on Mar 2, 2011 21:36:56 GMT 3
Whilst the party is quoting the political parties act to expel the MPs, I have serious concerns about the constitutionality of that clause and whether indeed it can be contested in court.
When the law says that making an utterance supporting the formation of another political party gets you deemed as having resigned from the party is not only nonesensical but actuall an infringement of an important human right as it curtails ones freedom of speech as enshrined in the constitution.
Unless one has actually written to resign from the party, I highly doubt the constitution would support section 17 (I think) which ODM is using to expel the two MPs.
Internally, the ODM constitution must provide for the process of expelling a member and in particular an MP. I would imagine and NGC or NDC would have to be convened to ratify such a decision which is the other reason I see difficulty in ODM succeeding in its endeavour.
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Post by nalinali on Mar 2, 2011 22:04:05 GMT 3
KTN Prime has just reported that ODM has now written to the Registrar of Political Parties saying that it has expelled Chepalungu MP Isaac Ruto and Assistant Minister Aden Duale as members of the Orange Democratic Movement party. The move follows the registrar advise earlier today that it was upon the party to decide what disciplinary measure to visit upon members it considered errant, a challenge promptly taken by ODM. The unpresedented move to expel the two MPs allied to Eldoret North MP William Ruto promises to be controversial and that which will be bitterly contested by the UDM-headed MPs. The registrar of polical parties is now expected to write to the Speaker of National Assembly to delare both seats vacant. A by-election in both constituencies will be the first all out political contest between ODM and UDM. More later. Phil This is not to question the veracity of the news, but I may ask upfront if the act of expelling an ODM member can be done arbitrarily by one office without a substantive meeting of relevant party organs procedurally implicated in such actions? |
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Post by mzee on Mar 2, 2011 22:25:46 GMT 3
Phil,
While this is a good move as the MPs add no value to the party other than the so called numbers, ODM will have to fight very hard to gain Rutos seat. This is going to be a major battle.
If I were William Ruto, I would call upon all "my MP´s" to resign in solidarity and go for a mini election via UDM. Talking about UDM, is it not true that there is a tussle in court over chairmanship?
Lets wait and see
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Post by tnk on Mar 2, 2011 23:04:23 GMT 3
Good move, long overdue. Expect registrar (with instructions from the hill) to delay since these guys are only useful when they remain rebels within ODM.
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Post by kaburwo on Mar 2, 2011 23:11:42 GMT 3
The party should simply expel any MP from whose mouth the name UDM has issued. Why the fear to touch WKR?
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Post by job on Mar 2, 2011 23:27:22 GMT 3
Excellent......let UDM ( a regional party destined for isolating William Ruto's supporters into Ruto's personal briefcase) have a seat officially in Chepalungu, rather than doing it by proxy under the ODM banner. Ditto for Duale. Let them spend campaign money in 2011, then againin 2012 for these two highly competitive seats...
A party's disciplinary measures are an internal matter...so long as steps taken fall within the Political Parties Act, it looks set. Let these fellas bring on their political gamesmanship. This is long overdue.
Timing is also key. Anyone noticed something about the timing?
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 2, 2011 23:33:23 GMT 3
Folks,
I agree with nalinali here. While it is OK to expel people who have stated their mission is to destroy the party of which they are members, due process must be followed. In this case due process is the right party organs holding meetings to deliberate and vote on the matter if necessary.
As for the members being given an opportunity to defend themselves, the problem with Ruto and the Duale dude, is that they both publicly announced they have are now members of UDM. That is in the papers and ODM will definitely attach that. In any case that is what the Registrar asked for. The smart fox William Ruto always talks of another party and will never be caught dead saying he is a member of UDM. He lets the other empty debes do the talking.
But the law is a clear, if a member elected as a rep of one party joins another political party, the party that sponsored them to parliament has the right to expel them and the Speaker will declare the seat vacant.
Let's not forget that this particular was enacted to prevent the situation where parties were just vehicles to take people to parliament and as soon as they got there they were up for hire.
So really the registrar is not concerned about internal party dynamics as long as the relevant party organs communicate to the Registrar.
My thinking is that ODM has to be a serious party. If there are those sick and tired of ODM and want to live and keep fighting their own, never attend party meetings and have sworn publcivly to destroy the party, deal with them fairly. But the big deal is ODM does not make this a party priority. It has to be some footnote and then let the party move.
The most stupid thing ODM members can do after this so called expulsion if it really happened is for the members to turn this into a funeral rally topic. That is what Isaac Ruto and his sponsors need. Have another weekend of stupid crap about Ruto who is a nobody in Kenya. Ignore these people and move on. Let them wallaw in their misery.
adongo
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 3, 2011 4:33:16 GMT 3
This is a very strategic opening salvo by ODM.
They have nothing to loose really. Those two will have to leave the legico, and get back in, if they can (and who knows?) through the Panua or UDM or whatever party of their choice. Let them prove their mettle.
Its great to draw these guys out.
They have been eating their cake and keeping it on the shelf for quiet a long time now.
let them go fend on their own.
I hope the by elections are in the next few months and that the courts will not stop ODM from expelling them.
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Post by kipfirimbi on Mar 3, 2011 5:40:28 GMT 3
Tactical indeed! In the sense that ODM perhaps by culling these two rebels wants to test just how true if the theory that there is love lost in these counties!
These two are guinea pigs! They are being led into ODM test labs...They are the sacrificial lambs ODM cant afford to lose.
Now lets see how much kahonis these two guys got!
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Post by reporter911 on Mar 3, 2011 5:50:42 GMT 3
Good call either way! let the game of musical chairs begin ;D ;D " UDM + RUTO" ARE LOOKING FOR MEMBERS ANY JUKWAA MEMBERS INTERESTED TO JOIN?  |
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Post by kamalet on Mar 3, 2011 8:03:37 GMT 3
Kudos to Nalinali and Adongo for seeing the problem with the actions as announced in the media yesterday. Like I did, they are questioning whether due party process was followed in the alleged expulsions.
The issue is not the expulsions themselves (that the party has a right to do!), it is the process that these two are questioning. Does the ODM constitution provide for such a process of expulsion and does such expulsion require the ratification of one of the organs of ODM such as the NDC or the NGC?
I did add the element of the constitutionality of the Political Parties Act especially the section of the Act that is being used by ODM to expel the two. Whilst the two have not promoted the formation of a a party or joined the membership of that party, they have made pronouncements in public in support of UDM. The Act provides this (the public pronouncement of support) as a reason for expulsion, and ODM is using this. But does this not flout the freedom of speech (and perhaps association) that is enshrined in our constitution?.....Just asking!
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Post by mank on Mar 3, 2011 8:12:02 GMT 3
They can expel anybody who complains about the kings bad breath but let them not pretend to be a force for democratic change ... what they clearly demonstrate is that they are only a force for changing the face above the butt that sits over us all. Those with eyes can see!
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 3, 2011 9:08:12 GMT 3
This is what those with eyes are "seeing".
Kina Isac are cowards who are technically in ODM, just using ODM to be in the legico, but are seething with anger against ODMers.
See, there is a history of ODM candidate beating a UDM candidate that isaac campaigned for. He ended up eating humble pie. hE ACTUALLY DOES NOT WANT TO GET A NEW MANDATE, but wants to rock ODM from within.
read with eyes wide shut and the story below does not change
Rebel ODM MP Isaac Ruto has stated that he has not defected from the party but said he had no apologies to make for supporting a rival party’s candidate in the just-concluded Sotik by-election.
“I am still a bonafide member of ODM. I have no plans of ditching the party in the immediate future. If I wanted to, I would have done so a long time ago. I don’t fear to seek a fresh mandate but I am yet to have a credible reason to do so,” he told the Sunday Nation on Sunday.
[b]The MP defied his party and vigorously campaigned for Brigadier Alexander Sitienei of UDM against Dr Joyce Laboso of ODM who emerged the winner.
Dr Laboso garnered 24,267 votes to Brigadier Sitienei’s 13,973. The Sotik seat fell vacant following the death in a plane crash of Lorna Laboso which also claimed the life of Bomet MP and Minister for Roads Kipkalya Kones.
Justifying his decision to support the UDM candidate, Mr Ruto said he believed Brigadier Sitienei was a better candidate. Nonetheless, he said that he recognised the new MP.
“The people of Sotik spoke and I respect their decision,” he said.
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So lets not view clear images with tainted Panua gray matter, for its better to have functional non partisan brains that process information, rather than eyes that merely gather them.
Blind folks can tell liars too.
But delusional folks cant tell reality from fiction, hata kama they have functional retinas. They are "blinded" by partisanship
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Post by phil on Mar 3, 2011 9:18:55 GMT 3
Phil This is not to question the veracity of the news, but I may ask upfront if the act of expelling an ODM member can be done arbitrarily by one office without a substantive meeting of relevant party organs procedurally implicated in such actions? Nalinali Thank you. I feel obligated to respond to you and Adongo since you guys have shown in the past your genuine love for this country. On this matter, it is apparent you guys are are confusing the provisions of the NARA on one hand and those of the Political Parties Act on the other hand. In the NARA, the removal of the Prime Minister requires that the house passes a simple majority vote, but for one to be Prime Minister, they must be leader of a majority political party and if he/she is be replaced by that majority party, then the highest decision making organ of that party, in this case the National Delegates Congress, must pass a resolution to that effect and copy the same to the Registrar of Political Parties. There are no such preconditions in the Political Parties Act and the Registrar of Political Parties has just about advised ODM correctly. Mark you, individuals political party members can through they own actions expel themselves from political parties just like akina Ruto, Duale and others have been doing. These are individuals who do not attend party meetings, they do oppose the party at every other forum including parliament, they also have openly campaigned against candidates of their own party in by-elections and perhaps at the worst they have advocated for another party and urged their supporters in ODM to cross-over to UDM in preparation for 2012. All these actions can be interpreted to mean that they have resigned from their membership in ODM. That is what the law says I will reproduce here the relevant clauses of the Political Parties Act for your reference. I am not amazed the likes of Kamale are opposing this. (4) A person who, while a member of a political party -
(a) forms another political party;
(b) joins in the formation of another political party;
(c) joins another political party; or
(d) in any way or manner, publicly advocates for the formation of another political party,
shall, notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (2) or the provisions of any other law, be deemed to have resigned from the previous political party.
(7) A member of a political party may only be expelled from that political party if he has infringed the constitution of the party or has acted in a manner contrary to the principles or rules of the party and after he has been afforded a fair opportunity to be heard. So as you can see, there is no requirement whatsoever that the NEC must meet or that the NDC must pass a resolution to expel irrelevant minions like Aden Duale and Isaac Ruto. For your information, someone like Isaac Ruto, coming from Southern Rift has got the least chances of being re-elected and the ODM ticket for Chepalungu was the most contested seat in the 2007 general elections where more than 40 individuals vied for the ODM ticket alone. Let's not cheat ourselves that those villagers are ready to dump ODM and follow this rudderless dream to UDM. This is a warning to William Ruto, Najib Balala and their allies. By all means, they are free to contest these decisions internally within ODM and of course they are free to address their grievances using channels allowed by the party constitution. But it is a betrayal of the highest order for an ODM member to be answerable to the leader of PNU or KANU. It cant just work! It is a fraud on the party, its members and its supporters to continue to enjoy the membership of the party while at the same time doing everything possible to defeat the progress or success of the same party in which you belong. The law does not allow that!!! If the Registrar does what is expected and Speaker Marende issues writs declaring the Dujis and Chepalungu seats vacant, the the two constituencies will go for by-elections and if they are re-elected on UDM tickets then they will be free to opposes and criticize ODM as much as they wish. ODM will then be free to go about its business of delivering what it promised Kenyans without having to worry about internal opposition. |
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Post by owuor on Mar 3, 2011 11:31:28 GMT 3
Phil,
I agree that every political party should be able to discipline its errant members. I just wonder why W. Ruto was spared the axe, fear??
Just a question that was raised by anothe contributor elsewhere, what became of the Pentagoons?
They outlived their importance or were they not supposed to be the national face of ODM?
Do we then conclude that the lone 2 left from the original six represent the regional new face of ODM??
Owuor
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Post by kaburwo on Mar 3, 2011 12:18:40 GMT 3
Remember to say I told you this when the time comes. The ODM has cleverly put a "boobtrap" on some renegades with those expulsions. In effect, Isaac Ruto's hold on Chebalungu (a constituency in which >40 contestants sought the ODM ticket and which has a UDM candidate READY) would bring on Kanu-Gideon Moi/Nick Salat Vs Kanu-PNU of UK on the one hand. But do you see Kutuny, WKR and Ketter staying away from "campaigning for a candidate from another party (read Isaac Ruto)"? No, they'd be there blazing and spitting fire. In the meantime, they'd be setting themselves up for subsequent expulsions. With the prospect of a by-election in January/February 2012 in Kutuny's, WKR's and Ketter's constituencies, possibly none of them would dare go on to help Isaac. He is cooked as far as I can forecast. But again, I have no crystal ball even though yours truly foretold Lumumba's KACC and Kibaki's trick in the retreat recently. Watch that space.
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Post by funkentelechy on Mar 3, 2011 15:02:13 GMT 3
These are actually 2 questions in one: ** the first one relates to the MPs' (Isaac Ruto, Aden Duale) relationship with ODM. ** the second relates to compliance with the law. I have not seen the letter that ODM sent to the Registrar but I'd imagine they, unlike Kibaki a few weeks ago on another issue, used some good lawyers. OPTION #1: IF the letter said, "based upon utterances and acts from the 2 in violation of the Political Parties Act, these 2 are no longer part of ODM," then I believe their case will stand. Note that this is not an expulsion per se. ODM would simply be observing -- not enacting -- the termination of their memberships --- in that the MPs in fact expelled themselves, they nullified their membership and an expulsion is even technically impossible: they're already out, like a member dying (you don't expel dead members, you simply declare vacancies). Case closed. OPTION #2: However, IF the letter made the mistake of referring to ODM's internal constitution and tried to "expel" them, the Ruto and Duale could defend themselves in civil court, by demanding due process, examining ODM's rulebook, did they have this AGM, blah blah, etc, etc. If the letter confused the 2 positions, then we're in for a good movie. I hope they did #1, clean and neat. Lucy Ndung'u seems to be playing politics, in that she wants ODM to walk into the civil suit trap. Standard newspaper quotes her: "But the Registrar of Political Parties wants ODM to first expel, remove or suspend ODM MPs Isaac Ruto (Chepalungu) and Adan Duale (Dujis) before she can strike off the members’ names from the party register.
"This action is to be taken by the party, at its own initiation. Subsequent notification to the Registrar is required, with sufficient supportive information, for additional measures to be taken," Ndung’u said during a Press conference at his offices in Nairobi."
I think she is making her own laws here. She is embellishing the law so that her hands can be clean-ish-ish. We can see from phil's post above that expulsion is complicated. She is saying Political Parties Act Section 4 is subject to Section 7. This is creative law. ODM must not fall for this trap -- they must keep things simple: "Madame Lucy, by virtue of Sec 4 (c) and (d), we deem Mssrs Ruto and Duale to have resigned through acts committed on dates between dd/mm/yyyy and dd/mm/yyyy. Period!" Keep away from Sec 7! You can't expel someone who is already deemed to have resigned! |
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Post by akinyi2005 on Mar 3, 2011 20:37:29 GMT 3
Ruto claims that ODM cannot use their numbers and deny them their rights....what numbers when they always go against the grain? ODM rebels rubbish expulsion threat Dujis MP Aden Duale and Isaac Ruto of Chepalungu have rubbished attempts by individual party officials to discipline them, saying that mandate rests with the National Executive Council and the National Governing Council. Addressing a news conference at the Parliament Buildings, the duo said they will lodge a complaint with the Political Parties Tribunal on Friday to resolve the matter. "ODM cannot continue to use our numbers and at the same time deny us our rights," Mr Ruto said. A letter signed by ODM Deputy Secretary General Joseph Nkaiserry and copied to the Registrar of Political Parties and National Assembly Speaker claimed to have expelled the two party members from the party. He wanted the Registrar of Political Parties to write to the House Speaker to implement the move and subsequently declare their seats vacant. Meanwhile, ODM Parliamentary Whip Jakoyo Midiwo has said they will also discipline suspended Higher Education Minister William Ruto after the 'successful' expulsion of Mr Duale and the Chepalungu MP. Mr Midiwo said they would deal with all rebel MPs who are against Prime Minister Raila Odinga. He said the party would use its Constitution and the Political Party's Act to discipline the rebels. The Orange Democratic Movement claimed that Mr Duale and Mr Ruto ceased to be members of the party after violating the party constitution. "We will not allow a situation where a member disrespects the party leader... where at every rally or funeral you attend you hurl insults at your leader. That is the sort of impunity we want to eliminate completely," said the ODM whip. Mr Midiwo added:" Let it be known, that whether you are councillor or an MP and you don't dance to our tune, you will go." He insisted that Mr Duale and Mr Ruto had been openly supported the Party of National Unity and the United Democratic Movement at various rallies. "They are the people who use the name of the party most; it's been two years since he (Mr Ruto) contributed a single cent to the party". "All these members are ordinary MPs and they contribute 20,000 to 30,000, and Duale who is a national vice chairman contribute Sh5,000. What kind of example is he setting for the people he is leading? he wondered. Mr Midiwo pointed out that the two MPs were among several rebel lawmakers who had been openly supporting UDM and also attended a recent PNU Parliamentary Group meeting in contravention of the party constitution and the Political Parties Act. "We must define the way politicians behave, we must do it now for the future of our party," Mr Midiwo stressed. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/ODM-rebels-rubbish-expulsion-threat-11919.html |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 3, 2011 21:32:05 GMT 3
Ruto claims that ODM cannot use their numbers and deny them their rights....what numbers when they always go against the grain? ODM rebels rubbish expulsion threat Dujis MP Aden Duale and Isaac Ruto of Chepalungu have rubbished attempts by individual party officials to discipline them, saying that mandate rests with the National Executive Council and the National Governing Council. Addressing a news conference at the Parliament Buildings, the duo said they will lodge a complaint with the Political Parties Tribunal on Friday to resolve the matter. "ODM cannot continue to use our numbers and at the same time deny us our rights," Mr Ruto said. A letter signed by ODM Deputy Secretary General Joseph Nkaiserry and copied to the Registrar of Political Parties and National Assembly Speaker claimed to have expelled the two party members from the party. He wanted the Registrar of Political Parties to write to the House Speaker to implement the move and subsequently declare their seats vacant. Meanwhile, ODM Parliamentary Whip Jakoyo Midiwo has said they will also discipline suspended Higher Education Minister William Ruto after the 'successful' expulsion of Mr Duale and the Chepalungu MP. Mr Midiwo said they would deal with all rebel MPs who are against Prime Minister Raila Odinga. He said the party would use its Constitution and the Political Party's Act to discipline the rebels. The Orange Democratic Movement claimed that Mr Duale and Mr Ruto ceased to be members of the party after violating the party constitution. "We will not allow a situation where a member disrespects the party leader... where at every rally or funeral you attend you hurl insults at your leader. That is the sort of impunity we want to eliminate completely," said the ODM whip. Mr Midiwo added:" Let it be known, that whether you are councillor or an MP and you don't dance to our tune, you will go." He insisted that Mr Duale and Mr Ruto had been openly supported the Party of National Unity and the United Democratic Movement at various rallies. "They are the people who use the name of the party most; it's been two years since he (Mr Ruto) contributed a single cent to the party". "All these members are ordinary MPs and they contribute 20,000 to 30,000, and Duale who is a national vice chairman contribute Sh5,000. What kind of example is he setting for the people he is leading? he wondered. Mr Midiwo pointed out that the two MPs were among several rebel lawmakers who had been openly supporting UDM and also attended a recent PNU Parliamentary Group meeting in contravention of the party constitution and the Political Parties Act. "We must define the way politicians behave, we must do it now for the future of our party," Mr Midiwo stressed. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/ODM-rebels-rubbish-expulsion-threat-11919.htmlOh yeah Akinyi, I agree with Ruto and Duale fully. How can Midiwo connive with the rather usually meek Ole Nkaissery and purport to write a letter expelling anyone from the party? Pure bunkum, even kangaroo courts are run a little bit better. Dont you agree? |
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Post by akinyi2005 on Mar 3, 2011 21:51:56 GMT 3
mwalimumkuu,
you have rubbished ODM at every opportunity why should anything they do surprise you?let the party deal with the rebels the best way they know how. if anything this will jolt them to the reality that an expulsion is not far-fetched and it's about time they stopped their juvenile rants and frequent display of insolence to the party leadership. i doubt ruto will want to face the 40 something rivals in his backyard don't you agree?
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 3, 2011 21:56:47 GMT 3
akinyi,
Like I said before, if you are going to discpline party members, follow the godamn party rules and constitution.
In this case they are lucky. All they need to do is to call National Executive Council and the National Governing Council to ratify the expulsion and those two chaps are gone. That is an easy thing to do, none of those chaps has any support in those two bodies. William Ruto and his group foolishly abandoned ODM, never attend meetings and got themselves out of ODM organs. These M.Ps have no feet to stand on. If ODM want them out, they will be out and gone. Their only chance is to beg for mercy. And from what I see in the public domain Kenyans are saying ODM should have done this a long time ago.
In any event, it is not the business of the Registrar to deal with internal party matters. Once they get a letter you have been expelled and it is signed by the right party leader, they do not need minutes of meetings where you were expelled. That is your internal business with your party. You can sue your party if you want.
But on the whole I don't like the tone adopted by Midiwo who as everybody knows is just as bad a political figure as Isaac Ruto. Midiwo should stick to his Whip business and let the right party organ handle the matter. Joseph Nkaiserry, signing the letter is fine, as he is the party Deputy Secretary General and the SG Prof. Anyang' is hospitalized.
So Joseph Nkaiserry is the right person to sign the letter. Now they should call those two bodies to meet ratify the decision to expel the two and close theh case and please ask Midiwo to shut up. He is talking too much nonsense on a matter that does not concern him. Midiwo job is to deal with ODM matters in parliament and in committees. He has no other position in the party.
The big deal here is that Ruto and Duale are already shaking in their pants and hoping to go to the Party Tribunal to "resolve" the matter. Just yesterday the same Duale was bragging how they were just about to kick Namwamba out of the Legal Affairs Committee. Last time I checked Namwamba is just about to present the IEBC bill.
Obviously the Duales have now put their tails where it belongs. The chest thumping is gone. Someone is threatening to close the gravy train tap. All the makelele of oh Marende will be thrown out and PM cencored has died. Even Issac Ruto now wants to be allowed to hang around in ODM. So already the expulsion notice has done its job, namely shut down empty debes. Way to go.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 3, 2011 22:15:18 GMT 3
mwalimumkuu, you have rubbished ODM at every opportunity why should anything they do surprise you?let the party deal with the rebels the best way they know how. if anything this will jolt them to the reality that an expulsion is not far-fetched and it's about time they stopped their juvenile rants and frequent display of insolence to the party leadership. i doubt ruto will want to face the 40 something rivals in his backyard don't you agree? Akinyi Not that it surprises me, but it offers yet another opportunity for Kenyans to be reminded that these fellows are not leaders, but power seekers. If they cannot run a political party effectively and effienciently and in adherence to their own party's laws, how can they run a country? Meanwhile here, they are reminded that their threats will not work: www.youtube.com/user/NTVKenya#p/u/1/wEdxQQwi4zw |
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Post by akinyi2005 on Mar 3, 2011 22:21:46 GMT 3
akinyi,Like I said before, if you are going to discpline party members, follow the godamn party rules and constitution. In this case they are lucky. All they need to do is to call National Executive Council and the National Governing Council to ratify the expulsion and those two chaps are gone. That is an easy thing to do, none of those chaps has any support in those two bodies. William Ruto and his group foolishly abandoned ODM, never attend meetings and got themselves out of ODM organs. These M.Ps have no feet to stand on. If ODM want them out, they will be out and gone. Their only chance is to beg for mercy. And from what I see in the public domain Kenyans are saying ODM should have done this a long time ago. But on the whole I don't like the tone adopted by Midiwo who as everybody knows is just as bad a political figure as Isaac Ruto. Midiwo should stick to his Whip business and let the right party organ handle the matter. Joseph Nkaiserry, signing the letter is fine, as he is the party Deputy Secretary General and the SG Prof. Anyang' is hospitalized. So Joseph Nkaiserry is the right person to sign the letter. Now they should call those two bodies to meet ratify the decision to expel the two and close theh case and please ask Midiwo to shut up. He is talking too much nonsense on a matter that does not concern him. Midiwo job is to deal with ODM matters in parliament and in committees. He has no other position in the party. The big deal here is that Ruto and Duale are already shaking in their pants and hoping to go to the Party Tribunal to "resolve" the matter. Just yesterday the same Duale was bragging how they were just about to kick Namwamba out of the Legal Affairs Committee. Last time I checked Namwamba is just about to present the IEBC bill. Obviously the Duales have now put their tails where it belongs. The chest thumping is gone. Someone is threatening to close the gravy train tap. All the makelele of oh Marende will be thrown out and PM cencored has died. Even Issac Ruto now wants to be allowed to hang around in ODM. So already the expulsion notice has done its job, namely shut down empty debes. Way to go. totally agree, midiwo should cease making any further comments he's beginning to take the focus away from the culprits who should be feeling the heat and not sitting in hotel rooms giving press conferences. there must be a good reason why the part leadership chose this path. possibly the intention is to set things in motion, stop the culprits in their tracks while waiting for the NEC and NGC to seal the rebels' fate. or maybe the whole intention is to shut up the empty debes. unfortunately for them parliament is not in session and the rest of the mob (pnu plus rest of renegades) aren't around so hakuna cha feeding off of each other. good let them fight to cling onto ODM. Meanwhile UDM ina wenyewe, so if they are shaken off what party will they run on given the small but crucial matter of having been a member of a party for at least 3 months? |
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Post by bob on Mar 3, 2011 22:28:39 GMT 3
It time we realized that at no one time have we seen or heard the Duales & Rutos challenging the party agendas but have only one pet subject that is RAO. So this is the right step taken by ODM top brass. If it pleases them to be used like toilet tissue by rival parties to undermine their their sponsoring party the so be it, let the be flashed in the loo. By the way did anyone realize that Duale is already suggesting that they use the party constitution to iron out any differences that may have precipitated the whole scenario? Reality is sinking. Coming fast & Harddddddddddddd!
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