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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 14:59:29 GMT 3
Submitted by sparks_11_99 Posted April 05, 2011 01:11 PM
Which kenyans ? I never took part in that poll i don't know anyone who did.I and everyone i know are for kenyan problems,kenyan responsibility and thats why our fathers fought for independence.
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Submitted by johndirish Posted April 05, 2011 12:48 PM
waititu,how much do you spend when doing the sampling?and what other business is done by synovate beside that?just curiuos
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Submitted by felabhi Posted April 05, 2011 12:33 PM
George Waititu, where / who / how do you contact your polls? why cant you request votes to all kenyans instead of doing things behind kenyan knowledge. upuzi mtupu.
Submitted by perepepe Posted April 05, 2011 12:30 PM
Synovate is fast losing credibility with its bias in 2007 being revealed by Wikileaks. We take your opinion polls with much salt since this revelation. Infact Synovate through its former name Steadman may be culpable of causing PEV having given a presidential aspirant 10 points ahead of nearest rival only to be pulled aside by Americans and shown a poll that put two front runners one to two points apart. Waititu, release your opinion polls to the birds.
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Submitted by mureraikihia Posted April 05, 2011 12:15 PM
Several questions always follow the release of opinion polls by Synovate. The remain as follows: 1. The timing of the release of opinion polls - Always coincides with a period within which a particular politician is politically cornered. 2. Who pays or sponsors the polls? 3. The methodology used in sampling. According to Wikileaks Synovate has admitted different methods of sampling will give different results. Synovate, stop preying on Kenya's mass ignorance. We can smell a rat even though unable to articulate and prove our suspicion.
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Submitted by Pamzy Posted April 05, 2011 12:09 PM
I would really like to be interviewed for one of these so-called polls one of these days. Who do they interview, where and when?
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Submitted by Munjeri Posted April 05, 2011 12:08 PM
Synovate, we are as gullible!the same way you inflated RAO's popularity,the same you are inflating the Hague a gender he is pursuing. Who funds you by the way. why dont they fund eg unemployment/hunger reduction surveys and strategies
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 14:01:35 GMT 3
Another wrong portrayal by the media/pollsters and pundits of the actual happenings and wishes on ground .
This is what uhuru had to say about this wrong potrayal
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 13:56:13 GMT 3
Somebody remind MK to make a copy of this to Kibunjia, i think from here we can start discussing what actually amounts to hate speech. Mk I am sarting to wonder how you got that job in the first place. I am thoroughly disappointed. Kibunja does not deal with 'hate' at a personal level. Raila hating is fair game as is Kibaki or Ruto/Uhuru hating. The problem comes in when you refer to kikuyus as fools. Now that will lead Kibunja to your door. .....but then I know where you are coming from. An insult on the person of Raila is an insult on the whole community he comes from! I that be the case, then bring in Kibunja pronto! This is a double edged sword . It will bar Raila from talking against Uhuru/Ruto and I bet this is one of the offensive tactics this lot has been using . Let Kibunja issue the summons and Raila attack Uhuruto and this will boil to "Kibunja team is lenient on Raila because he is the Prime Minister and the incumbent "
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 11:59:23 GMT 3
Adongo , This is a sober analysis on how Kenya got itselves in the P.E.V. However you fail to mention that Raila is the one built his campaign platform solemnly based on inciting other communities against one community and the most ridiculous thing is he is not on the Ocampo 6 as he was the ringleader . That is the questions by Kenyans why isnt Raila being held responsible for the 2008 P.E.V. ;D ;D ;D nice try.. keep spinning them.. post proof on here.. who did Raila Kill? in Central or Rift Valley?Kenyans are aware that UHURU KENYATTA PAID MUNGIKI gangs to kill, burn, rape innocent kenyans..in cod blood!!Kenyans are also aware that Ruto & co paid gangs to burn innocent Kenyans in the Kiamba Church, killed, raped and chased other tribes from the Rift Valley.. " IDP camps are still full of raped victims.. The questions Kenyans keep asking themselves are these two Murderers Uhuru & Ruto Killed and slaughtered each others tribes and yet the same tribes are supporting them 100% did they plan the killings in together? was it planned ahead? how come they are now in a loving marriage? and yet they are the same people accused of most heinous crimes against each others tribes including other tribes?are people from central and rift valley blind? or they have been given a "kamute".. something stinks.. By the way sources say that those Luo's, Luhya's, Kisii's that worked on the coffee & tea farms in central that disappeared.. there are mass graves in central province ebu tell Uhuru to produce their skeletons for proper burials!! bure kabisa!! Reporter, What Adongo and I are acknowledging is that ethnic Incitement against a community is what brought about P.E.V. in 2008 . And what I pointed out , which incidentally Adongo had left out is that Raila was the ringleader in the incitement , so he should be held responsible for that.
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 8:05:32 GMT 3
The KKK mouthpiece is off message and on warpath! Open letter to the Rt Hon Raila Amolo Odinga.BY MOSES KURIA. Sir, let me start by apologizing for addressing you through an open and public letter. I would have wanted to seek an appointment to meet you in your office which, laudably, you have managed to refurbish to the standards of an emperor’s royal palace. However, since you appear to have some insatiable affinity for publicity, I thought to give you free, unsolicited promotion by addressing you through an open letter. Bwana Prime Minister, this week must be really a special one for you. I have no doubt that come Thursday 7th April and Friday 8th April, your eyes will be glued to live TV coverage of the proceedings at the International Criminal Court at The Hague. I can imagine you will be surrounded by a coterie of your surrogates and sycophants. I can envision the number of Champagnes that will be popping on that day, the hi-fives that will be exchanges, the hugs, the self-elation and self congratulations. I can see you making a short speech to your guests, thanking them, especially James Orengo, for a job very well done. I can even remotely hear you quoting the late Hon Kijana Wamalwa and saying, “Ladies and Gentlemen, our grand march to State House is now unstoppable”. As you sip into your finely brewed Chivas Regal, I imagine you will be reminiscing on how far you have come, and how the respectable doyen of opposition politics the late Jaramogi Oginga Odinga must be happy from heaven, satisfied that you have fulfilled his dream of occupying the revered House on the Hill, State House. Son of Adonijah, allow me to take you back, down the lane of memory. In your own approved biography, you have admitted plotting to violently overthrow a legitimate government of Kenya. As you celebrate your victory in scheming to drag your opponents to a foreign court, you must be counting it as yet another ‘minor’ collateral damage in your pursuit for power. After all, what is the ICC compared with your heroic attempt to grab power during the 1982 coup ? It is reported that you wrote a thesis on the art and science of making nail bombs during your university days. Surely as you bomb the political terrain with one machination after another, this thesis must be coming in handy. Sir, if the late Hon Kijana Wamalwa was alive today, he would be telling the six innocent Kenyans you have conspired to take to The Hague that they are treading on a trodden path. In 1994, you meted untold violence on the late Wamalwa in your quest to take over control of FORD-Kenya after the passing away of your father. Your empty rhetoric nowadays can only be matched by the number of stones that were thrown by your supporters in Thika during that fateful FORD-Kenya elections day. In 1997, you abandoned Mwai Kibaki, Kijana Wamalwa, and Charity Ngilu and joined Daniel Arap Moi after losing the election. True to your character of looking for short-cuts to power, you thought that you would be Moi’s successor automatically. When that did not happen, in 2002 you decided to shout “Kibaki Tosha” even though you knew very well that Kibaki was winning anyway. You must have reckoned that Kibaki is a softer target for you to overthrow. Within 24 months of that declaration, you were already planning a coup to remove Kibaki from State House and install yourself through the handpicked Bomas delegates. Jakom, you will recall that in the run up to the 2007 General Elections you used to tell Kenyans that the Kibaki government was mistreating the Kalenjin people by evicting them from Mau. Today, when it suits you, you have no qualms throwing women and children from the forest to create even more Internally Displaced Persons. I have no doubt in my mind, sir, that by your actions and utterances, by your designs and by default, the post-election violence that followed the 2007 General Elections was executed according to your script. As the losing Presidential candidate who refused to accept defeat or go to court, in the eyes of rightly thinking Kenyans, you were the root cause for the worst violence ever to befall our nation. Today, the Kalenjin people who voted for you to the last man have become the objects of your never-ending machinations. I recall the camaraderie you used to have with Joshua Sang during the numerous times he hosted you in his morning show “ LEE NE EMET” or “What the World is saying. I am sure that to Sang there was only one World and his world was you, Hon Raila Odinga. Today, Henry Kosgey is understandably still receiving shock therapy, having problems coming to terms to your betrayal of a man who served you so dedicatedly. The Hon William Ruto must be wondering what to tell all those people he convinced to name you Arap Mibei. Anyone with the surname Mibei today must be looking forward to an opportunity for cleansing. It is understandable Mr. Odinga to be bitter with everyone and the whole world after the many years of incarceration. In the fight for liberation of this country, many had to pay a heavy price including death, disability and even impotence. However, Kenya is far more important than me and you. Those who fought for the independence of this country paid an even heavier price than you think you did. All these do not entitle one to automatic ticket to State House. Sir, you style yourself as a reformer-par-excellence. Your actions however are no consistent with the reformist tag that you claim. Take for example the issue of nomination certificates for ODM in the 2007 General Elections and NARC in your strongholds during the 2002 General Elections. I have personally conducted a survey of what each candidate had to pay to get the certificate. The range is between Ksh 5 Million and Kshs 50 Million. There goes the fresh prince of democracy. Mr. Prime Minister, you would want the world to believe that you are the champion of the youth. In my native Central Province, before Hon Mututho came to our rescue, illicit brews were destroying a whole generation of young people. It is common knowledge that the Kisumu Molasses Plant is the principal supplier of most raw materials used to manufacture these brews. Your vision for the youth of this country is succinctly clear. Today most Kenyans dread and shudder with fear to imagine what an Odinga presidency would be like. Luckily, by your actions and utterances, you provide Kenyans with a sneak preview of how things would turn out. Most Kenyans have come to realize that you have one true friend, and that friend resides in your mirror. A trailer for the movie “Inside Raila’s Presidency” was shown in New York recently when Mrs. Ida Odinga forcibly removed a Cabinet Minister, Hon Naomi Shabaan from an official UN programme and installed herself in her place. Even in Luo Nyanza, talk is rife about the nepotism that continues to inform all your official appointments. This is double tragedy coming at a time when the community is finding itself more and more isolated as a result of your brand of politics. A lot of professionals from Luo Nyanza are worried that you may be taking the region back to the politics of 1966. In conclusion, sir, let me assure you that I used to be your great admirer. You are a hardworking man if only that energy can be directed at constructive not destructive activities. The problem with you sir, is that most people perceive you as having a good brain but no soul. It is akin to having a computer with first class hardware but no software. Bwana Prime Minister, going by the long history of suffering that Kenya has suffered courtesy of yourself, a significant number of Kenyans wonder whether you are truly the curse of Kenya. I still believe that there is still time to redeem yourself and debunk that notion. Thank you Bwana Prime Minister. (The author is the spokesman of the Party of National Unity (PNU). The views expressed herein are his own) www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Eblog/view/Open-letter-to-the-Rt-Hon-Raila-Amolo-Odinga.htmlThis songs just but summarizes this article
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 8:01:29 GMT 3
Just wanted it out there more clearly, by Ruto on the local tribunal - from Ruto's lips "don't be vague go to Hague" As stated earlier This can be summarized as follows. 2 different clips from 2 different years1 from 2008 and the other from 2011. Why the change of heart from Bwana Ruto ? Simple Circumstances have changed . How ? In 2008 Kenya had the old constitution In 2011 . We have A NEW CONSTITUTIONIt was parodied as following When a girl chooses to abstain and when married she can engage in mapenzi- That girl didnt beat an abouturn nor is it regarded as hypocrisy . Simply It is right for her to engage in mapenzi because circumstances have changed MARRIAGE
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 7:54:51 GMT 3
sang2000What I find disturbing is that Ruto and Uhuru have now embarked on full time ethnic incitement as a line of defense for them. That is how we got in trouble to begin with. People know where these things end. It will generate another round of violence if justice is finally served. Adongo , This is a sober analysis on how Kenya got itselves in the P.E.V. However you fail to mention that Raila is the one built his campaign platform solemnly based on inciting other communities against one community and the most ridiculous thing is he is not on the Ocampo 6 as he was the ringleader . That is the questions by Kenyans why isnt Raila being held responsible for the 2008 P.E.V.
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 7:40:37 GMT 3
TUKO PAMOJA MY FOOT! MORE LIKE TUUNAGANE LEST RAIRA DESTROYS US. Its like Gulliver Travels all of these political dwarfs are struggling to tie one giant. The most amusing is Balala who must be a first hand buffoon if he does not see that all his good work in bringing in more tourists will be undone when Mau is destroyed and when those who he keeps company with plunge this nation into conflict. Yes Good Work Balala Has Done Yes Good Work Uhuru has done as Minister Of Finance Yes Good Work Ruto did as Minister in the Agricuture Docket. What has raila done as Prime Minister ? The Credit of Ushering In a new constituion goes to Kibaki
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 7:13:23 GMT 3
Job - It is well know in the public which party(ODM-Raila) has bought some people in the media even going to a low of buying cartoonist . Stop playing reverse psychology here . Why do you think UK is very angry with the mainstream media houses and pundits . Check his interview
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 6:46:42 GMT 3
Job - It is well know in the public which party(ODM-Raila) has bought some people in the media even going to a low of buying cartoonist . Why do you think UK is very angry with the mainstream media houses and pundits . Check his interview
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 6:41:58 GMT 3
UK ON Sunday Live With Julie - He hits at the media and pundits on how the want to portray the political situation which is contrary to what is on ground .
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 6:32:46 GMT 3
As usual ODM-Railas acting the ostrich with its head buried deep in the sand .
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 4, 2011 18:51:24 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 4, 2011 18:33:15 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 4, 2011 17:46:26 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 4, 2011 17:29:22 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 4, 2011 16:47:04 GMT 3
As stated earlier This can be summarized as follows. 2 different clips from 2 different years 1 from 2008 and the other from 2011.Why the change of heart from Bwana Ruto ? Simple Circumstances have changed . How ? In 2008 Kenya had the old constitution In 2011 . We have A NEW CONSTITUTIONand we are reminded that ruto tirelessly campaigned against the new constitution that you purport he now "trusts"?! The new constitution is for Kenyans whether you voted yes, no, abstained or you were in the bar drinking and the last time I checked Ruto is a Kenyan .
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 4, 2011 16:35:53 GMT 3
As stated earlier This can be summarized as follows. 2 different clips from 2 different years 1 from 2008 and the other from 2011.Why the change of heart from Bwana Ruto ? Simple Circumstances have changed . How ? In 2008 Kenya had the old constitution In 2011 . We have A NEW CONSTITUTIONIt was parodied as following When a girl chooses to abstain and when married she can engage in mapenzi- That girl didnt beat an abouturn nor is it regarded as hypocrisy . Simply It is right for her to engage in mapenzi because circumstances have changed MARRIAGE what a juvinile and myopic analogy! And so this should explain change of heart? and double speak??? acha porojo! Explanation - NEW CONSTITUTION . No need to go deeper and explain why Kenyans voted for the New constitution .
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 4, 2011 16:19:25 GMT 3
just in case we forget these fellows like mututho, waititu etc are among those that voted against establishment of local STK in feb 2009 and therefore have to go overdrive to cover their actions then == NOES: Ms. Abdalla S., Messrs. Abdirahman, Affey, Akula, Ali.M.H, Chachu, Ms. Chepchumba, Mr. Cheruiyot, Dr. Eseli, Messrs. Ethuro, Gaichuhie, Gitau, Githunguri, Gunda, Imanyara, Jirongo, Kaino, Prof. Kaloki, Messrs. Kamau J.I, Kamau J.M, Kambi, Kapondi, Kariuki, Kathuri, Dr. Khalwale, Messrs. Kigen, Kiilu, Kilonzo J.K, Kilonzo C.M, Kiuna, Kivuti, Koech, Konchela, Dr. Kones, Mrs. Kones, Mr. Kutuny , Dr. Laboso, Messrs. Lagat, Langat, Lesrima, Lessonet, Letimalo, Linturi , Litole, M'Mithiaru, Dr. Machage, Messrs. Magerer, Magwanga, Mbau, Mbugua, Mututho , Dr. Monda, Messrs. Mung'aro, Mungatana, Dr. Munyaka, Messrs. Muoki I.M, Muoki D.M, Mureithi, Murgor, Musyimi, Mwadeghu, Mwahima, Mwaita, Mwakulegwa, Mwangi, Mwatela, Mwathi, Mwiru, Nguyai , Njuguna, Mrs. Noor, Dr. Nuh, Messrs. Nyamai, Odhiambo, Ogindo, Ojaamong, Okemo, Olago, Ombui, Mr. Onyancha C., Dr. Otichilo, Eng. Rege, Messrs. Ruteere, Ruto , Sambu, Shakeel, Sirma, Waibara, Waititu , Wambugu, Washiali, Were and Yakub. == and for the record those that were for establishment of STK == AYES: Ms. A. Abdalla, Mr. Abdikadir, Prof. Anyang'-Nyong'o, Messrs. Anyanga, Baiya, Balala, Baya, Bett, Bifwoli, Duale, Dr. Gesami, Messrs. Githae, Godhana, Eng. Gumbo, Messrs. Gumo, Haji, Kabando wa Kabando, Kajembe, Kamama, Ms. Karua, Messrs. Kenneth, Kenyatta, Keya, Khang'ati, Khaniri, Kibaki, Kilonzo M. Kimunya, Kingi, Kinyanjui, Kioni, Kipkiror, Kiunjuri, Dr. Kosgei, Mr. Kosgey, Dr. Kuti, Mr. Lekuton, Ms. Leshomo, Eng. Maina, Ms. Mathenge, Mr. Mbadi, Ms. Mbarire, Messrs. Mbiuki, ole Metito, Eng. M.M. Mahamud, Michuki, Mohamed I.E, Mohamed A.C., Mudavadi, Mrs. Mugo, Messrs. Munya, Munyes, Muriithi, Murungi, Musyoka, Mwakwere, Mwau, Dr. Mwiria, Messrs. Namwamba, Nanok, Ndambuki, Nyagah, Nyamweya, Mrs. Ngilu, Ngugi, Maj-Gen. Nkaisserry, Messrs. ole Ntimama, Obure, Dr. Oburu, Mr. Ochieng, Ms. Odhiambo, Messrs. Ojode, Olago, Prof. Olweny, Messrs. Omollo, Omingo, Prof. Ongeri, Messrs. Onyonka, Oparanya, Orengo, Otieno, Otuoma, Pesa, Poghisio, Rai, Raila, Prof. Saitoti, Mr. Samoei, Prof. Sambili, Mr. Sasura, Dr. Shaban, Mrs. Shabesh, Mr. Shitanda, Maj. Sugow, Mr. Thuo, Bishop Wanjiru, Messrs. Warugongo, Wathika, Dr. Wekesa, Messrs. Wetangula and Yinda. == they may spin this anyway they want in those rallies, but let the records show that those NOES are what jump started the Hague Express, the now famous "don't be vague lets go hague" source Hansard: Feb 12 2009 == also see this www.nairobistar.com/weekend/siasa/17012-how-mps-rejected-the-proposed-special-tribunal-for-kenya-bill-and especially this www.icpcafrica.org/new/Publications/Road%20to%20Post-Election%20Violence%20Justice.pdfAs stated earlier This can be summarized as follows. 2 different clips from 2 different years 1 from 2008 and the other from 2011.Why the change of heart from Bwana Ruto ? Simple Circumstances have changed . How ? In 2008 Kenya had the old constitution In 2011 . We have A NEW CONSTITUTIONIt was parodied as following When a girl chooses to abstain and when married she can engage in mapenzi- That girl didnt beat an abouturn nor is it regarded as hypocrisy . Simply It is right for her to engage in mapenzi because circumstances have changed MARRIAGE
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 3, 2011 18:23:04 GMT 3
www.kbc.co.ke/news.asp?nid=69631With the clock ticking towards the Hague date for the so-called Ocampo Six, different sentiments continue to be expressed by leaders. Former foreign affairs minister Moses Wetangula has said that that cases involving the suspects of post election violence can be dealt with in the country if a credible judicial process is formed. Mr.Wetangula who was accompanied by Forestry and Wild life Minister Dr.Noah Wekesa and Labour Minister John Munyes at a funeral in Trans Nzoia County said according to the Rome statute, the International Criminal Court can refer the cases of the six suspects locally if a credible process to prosecute them was formed. Such efforts he said are in the hands of MPs. The six so-called after the ICC prosecutor Louis Moreno Ocampo are deputy prime minister Uhuru Kenyatta, former cabinet ministers William Ruto and Henry Kosgey, former police commissioner major General Hussein Ali, head of public service Francis Muthaura and journalist Joshua Arap Sang. Kenyatta and Ruto have been transversing the country drumming up grassroots support and maintaining they were innocent. On matters concerning the Ford Kenya party, Wetangula asked those who had defected including Saboti MP Eugene Wamalwa to go back to the party to help make it stronger. Wetangula declared that he was still in the race for the presidential seat come the next general elections on a Ford Kenya platform. Meanwhile a cabinet minister and two legislators from western Kenya have urged the six post election violence suspects to desist from defending themselves in public but prepare to argue their case at The Hague. Lands Minister James Orengo said the suspects must let the International Criminal Court do its work adding that if they are found not guilty the court shall set them free. Speaking at Bunyala in Budalangi Constituency, Orengo said nobody was above the law adding that the trial should serve as an example to other Kenyans to uphold the rule of law. Alego Usonga MP Edwin Yinda appealed to the suspects to remain calm since defending themselves in public was likely to make people and the court believe that they had something to be guilty about. "Let them go and defend themselves. If they are clean they will come back and if they are guilty let them serve their sentences and we shall still welcome them back home," said the MP. Budalangi Member of Parliament Ababu Namwamba said those opposing the Hague process refused to support the formation of a local tribunal to try the suspects. He said the ODM party had no scores to settle with the suspects but wants to see a fair trial and justice for the post election violence victims. Water Minister Charity Ngilu called for mature politics as the country gears towards the 2012 general elections. Ngilu castigated leaders moving around the country preaching politics of division saying the move was likely to bring acrimony into the country.
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 3, 2011 18:14:56 GMT 3
The Uhurus and Rutos are saying they are still together with Kalonzo. [youtube] Yes they sure need the Hyena to pick their left over bones, so why haven't they invited Kalonzo to their Rallies and prayer meetings? UHURU AND RUTO ARE SPEAKING WITH FORKED TONGUES... even the devil won't save them! he used them and damped them.. tic toc the gravy ICC training is oiling its engines..ready to go.. Simple and Clear - He is spearheading the deferral .
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 3, 2011 17:51:28 GMT 3
Asked if he felt like he had been sidelined, Mr Musyoka said: The Uhurus and Rutos are saying they are still together with Kalonzo. [youtube]
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 3, 2011 17:14:36 GMT 3
NAIROBI, Kenya Apr 3 - A Kenyan researcher has now applied to the International Criminal Court to suspend summonses issued against six Kenyans. Moraa Gesicho who also claims to be a victim of the post election violence wants the Pre-Trial Chamber to await an outcome of a case she filed in Kisii High Court over the post election violence. In a statement, Ms Gesicho claims that the ICC intervention is as a result of the Waki Commission recommendations, which she argues were never fully submitted to President Mwai Kibaki as the appointing authority but instead it was handed to a ‘stranger’ “These findings and recommendations are now a subject of a court case this applicant has filled at the high court of Kenya in Kisii. The issue she plans to present to the ICC are bore out of these contested findings and recommendations,” she stated. “In view of the serious issues raised, which issues touch on fairness and justice for all including the suspects it is only fair and just that further implementation is halted until the applicant is hard.” Further implementation in this sense would include halting the appearance of the six suspects summoned to appear before the court on 7th and 8th of the April 2011 In the application filed at The Hague, Ms Gesicho says the decision of the Kisii Court may have serious implication on the case facing the Ocampo Six as the evidence the ICC prosecutor relies on may be declared null and void. She wants the ICC judges to allow time for the case in Kisii to be heard and determined before the implementation of the findings and recommendations of the Commission of Inquiry into post election violence. “If such a prayer is granted, it will have far-reaching ramifications on the Kenyan case before the ICC. It is on this basis that I pray the ICC to allow time before further implementation of the findings and recommendations of the CIVPEV report,” she said. The scholar cites that the case has proceeded to full hearing and will be heard in due course. ICC has summoned Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta, Head of Civil Service Francis Muthaura and former Police Commissioner Hussein Ali. Others are Eldoret North MP William Ruto, his Tinderet counterpart Henry Kosgey and Kass FM presenter Joshua arap Sang who are required at the court on April 7 and 8. Ms Gesicho, a victim of post-election violence, is seeking to disband the Truth, Justice and Reconciliation Commission (TJRC). She further wants the court to declare the Waki Report null and void. The professor is also pleading for fresh inquiry into the violence, which followed the 2007 disputed presidential election results. Read more: www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/Another-attempt-to-delay-the-Hague-trip-12287.html#ixzz1ITA8JP7nUnder Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 3, 2011 13:46:20 GMT 3
Agikuyu elders hold prayers for Ocampo Six www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Agikuyu+elders+hold+prayers+for+Ocampo+Six/-/1064/1137806/-/2u3mlnz/-/index.htmlBy JOHN NJAGI Posted Sunday, April 3 2011 at 13:26 The Agikuyu council of elders held prayers at the Mukuru wa Nyagathanga shrine in Murang’a county to “cleanse’ the country of what they termed as the return of western powers into the affairs of an independent state. “Our forefathers are unhappy because the enemy we fought (during the independence struggle) because he oppressed us has come back to take away our children,” they said. The elders went through the rigours of traditional worship that included lifting arms and removal of shoes in respect of the shrine. The elders called for the formation of a local tribunal and deferral of the ICC cases against the Ocampo six during the traditional ceremony. “The last time elders prayed here was in 1952 when they were in the face of defeat by the colonialists during the freedom struggle. They told God if we win it will be your victory and if we lose it will be you that will lose,” said council chairman Wachira Kiogo. The elders declared war against ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo, for what they termed as interference that would bring suffering. Ocampo was characterised as "taking away our children". They expressed confidence in the country’s ability to resolve its internal matters and rooted for a local tribunal. “We have people who are educated and indeed every community can produce a judge. We have no need for foreigners,” said another elder John Baptist Mugecha. The meeting was organised by the Agikuyu council of elders and the Music Reforms Association and included performances by several musicians. Musician Albert Gacheru, said the events would be held across the country among all communities to rally different tribes behind their cultures and vouch for local conflict resolution mechanisms. “Foreigners are getting a chance to dictate our own affairs because we have failed at the community level to foster unity,” he argued. The historical shrine is significant for the Kikuyu community as it was the ancestral origin for the community and was home to Gikuyu and Mumbi, who gave birth to nine daughters that went on to multiply into present Agikuyu community.
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