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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 29, 2011 9:15:42 GMT 3
Is Ruto jinxed? Now he is losing another battle. This is what came off the incendiary Muranga rallies, where, according to press reports; Ruto has now agreed to support Uhuru for the presidency, possibly settling for ‘VP’. Uhuru was crowned. In your face! So, now Uhuru Kenyatta is better than William Ruto? If indeed true, that ruto officially took the mantle fro veep under a jomo jnr presidency, that would be the best news I have heard. Boy would I want those two to form a tandem to run for P.O.R.K. But they would have to first get rid of thee ICC case. Then ruto would have to get rid of his local cases. Then we have to revisit history, where jomo snr ruled and then shafted the kalenjin of their land (or so the kalenjins say). So you think the wana RV will vote for the son, jomo jnr? And its clear that ruto will have no say over land or anything important? To be continued! They voted for UK in 2002 - The statics are all over the internet
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 29, 2011 9:13:28 GMT 3
Is Ruto jinxed? Some people are born losers. William Ruto has been losing since Moi was routed. I believe that this is because of a curse that befell him when he physically attacked an older man, Rueben Chesire in the corridors of state house. Chesire was old enough to be his father, yet without thought and very viciously he rained blows on the poor old man. Chesire’s health went downhill until he died. Ruto’s other big political battles have been mired in controversy, corruption or bloodbath. Take the recent constitutional referendum where he led the Kalenjin to humbling loss. Or his previous confusion over the constitution where Uhuru and his cronies manipulated and used him like a child leaving him leaking his wounds and on the very wrong side of history. I won’t even get started on PEV, ICC, maize scandals, court cases and what have you… it is instructive to note that irrespective of Ruto's innocence or guilt, he has always been the one holding the wrong end of the stick. Now he is losing another battle. This is what came off the incendiary Muranga rallies, where, according to press reports; Ruto has now agreed to support Uhuru for the presidency, possibly settling for ‘VP’. Uhuru was crowned. In your face! So, now Uhuru Kenyatta is better than William Ruto? And what is this story that appointments to State House have suddenly dried up? My, oh my! maybe they will resume. Supposing, just supposing ODM were to present another Kalenjin for president? One of the most stupid thing anyone can do in politics is to burn bridges with his ‘enemies’. Damn! Politics is not for fools! No endorsement has been done and no one has settled for VPs post . That will be done during the 2012 election runoffs
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 29, 2011 9:10:51 GMT 3
. There is no way GEMA, especially, the Kikuyu are voting for Ruto. They will do a Kabogo on him. You can take that to the bank. For now it is easy because there is no agreed upon flag bearer for this horror show.Even the lame duck P.O.R.K admitted that the madness in RV post election was driven by ruto. Right now the Gema masses are responding to jomo jnr message. And ruto is basking in the afterglow. But crunch time comes and we start seeing exactly what Ocampa has in evidence on what ruto did to he Gema masses, and we start hearing direct from the witnesses, wana Gema will cry for ruto's neck Its well known that Its Kibaki and Raila who has wronged the Kalenjin . Uhuru has never wronged the Kalenjins and no mounts of propaganda will change that
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2011 18:35:37 GMT 3
Interesting to see when the reality hits the fan - Just the other day(yesterday ) it was Ruto and Uhuru will go after each other . After some several hours when reality sinks in its Uhuru and Ruto are tribalists . Well check the books Uhuru and Ruto have managed to end negative tribal feelings between the Kikuyus and Kalenjins unless Raila opens his old book of tricks and start selling to the nation his innuendos how Kikuyus (2005 Referendum) and Kalenjins(2010 Referendum) are the reason Kenyans are poor yada yada .
Meli imeanza safari kusimamisha ningumu
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2011 14:50:33 GMT 3
Karua can be grouped in the same category as Bonnys, Gitobus ,Muites and Dondes - These are independents and its better for the nation that they stay in that space , no wonder they admired by a lot of people.
Karua is the new Ngilu (in reference to losing her political base to Kalonzo)- She was the man in 2008 and the political base which has shifted to UK then even were astonished when she wasn't given the DPM seat . Her political career was up there and if a snap election was held then , she would have managed to get a large chunk of votes from that political base.
Then came in the I.C.C. that produced the meteoric rise in the political career of U.K. and consequently that political base started identifying themselves with him .
Martha has been seen as a hard-sell due to her hard stance on things she doesnt agree or believe in and the political blunder she did in resigning as the minister of Constitution .
There is the other notion that Peter Kenneth can be the other project to divide that political base . If you have realized Kenneth has no ideological differences with U.K. the problem between Kenneth and UK is the personal friend of UK David Murathe who also is politician from Gatanga .Kenneth should just eat the humble pie and join UK wing just as Kabogo etc did , It will actually work for him in the future rather than be tricked into thinking he will be the Kenyan Obama come 2012 .
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2011 12:18:01 GMT 3
Oh my god. Even Kibaki had ethnic stuff, but not at this level. Imagine Raila was doing this in Nyanza. People would go crazy. Block by block ethnic incitement? This is terrible. So Uhuru has to be the prince of the Agikuyu. What does that have to do with Kenya? He can just be their king even if he is at The Hague. Those who want to go strip dancing there will have to check with ICC security and morality police, if there is any. There is no problem at all on that plate. But here is what I am talking about. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000032060&cid=4&adongo the sheep skin (kkkl brotherhood) is off - didn't take long now did it so where is kalonzo and ruto or wamalwa in this setup. hehehe, they can only play 2nd fiddle all the rest of the stories they spin are still-born tell me that those guys formerly known as central province will then suddenly support one of these other guys because uhuru says so. hehehehe dream on brothers dream on. like kiraitu said, uhurus name will be on that ballot paper, whether he is at the hague, local tribunal, gatundu or local pub would like to hear the ruto, kalonzo or wamalwa comeback ati they are equal contenders - yeah right!!! next step is to identify the vehicle - kanu appears tricky because in about 2 months uhuru will cease to be chairman of the party and party leader or else the party dissolves so we need an umbrella party we will soon know. not long now, not long now Tnk, As stated earlier , the 2012 elections will be about regional parties headed by their own regional political leaders . All those youve mentioned will be in the ballot paper during the initial elections prior to the run-offs The plan is to have a place like western have a regional party go after a national party(ODM-R) the parties lead by Ruto Balala Uhuru Kalonzo and Duales not to field parliamentary/county/Governor candidates and let ODM-R go one on one with e.g. New Ford-Kenya and the presidential candidate e.g. Wamalwa to his consolidate political base in preparation for bargaining in the in the formation of coalition parties during the Run-offs . As put by Wetangula said - you guard you territory to go and conquer another territory . If you have been following the Ikolomani by-elections this scenario which has been going around . Why do you think Jirongo has abandoned Rutos ship? and is know campaigning for Khalwale ?
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2011 11:07:42 GMT 3
kaburwoTo do justice to your piece, let me ignore the ostriches with their heads deeply buried in the sand. I suppose that WKR walked into this trap to save only himself from his many tribulations. The fraud landcase, other are yet to starts and of course the Hague. PORK/PNU had the painkillers not the ultimate medication. Knowing that he had an irresistible political solution for PNU, WKR jumped at the grand trap opportunity offering ; 1. The PM’s head on a silver platter. 2. A section of MP’s to tilt parliamentary strength and weaken ODM, 3. Rift Valley’s massive voting block ahead of 2012 Unfortunately WKR failed in all of the above. The desired effect was not achieved. He has ended up separating and isolating himself instead from the ODM front. PNU on the other hand is beginning to shun him. Fact is that WKR will not be on the ballot paper. Rift Valley is looking for his successor (The successor who is yet to emerge and some leaders will remind rift valley how WKR almost sold them off). The PNU wing has woken up to a realization that Jomo Jnr will also not be on the ballot paper. Another sad fact is that both WKR and Jomo Jnr had dealt each other unsalvageable damage that sunk their fate to the bottoms of the sea. Each used their then existing networks in Government to provide destructive material to the WAKI Commission against each other. They have themselves to blame.WKR is being described by those in the know as finished with a lot of baggage. Jomo Jnr is in no different position either. Evidence collected against both are highly incriminating. WKR had hoped that since the PNU wing appeared to control state resources and machinery, he would benefit from the deferral or referral process and eventually be sanitized via a local tribunal. The above appeared to be an appealing offer to Jomo Jrn and Muthaura who quickly welcomed WKR on board. That is how WKR starting sleeping with his enemies. The downside of this matter is that the wheels of justice continued to turn undeterred. Ocampo stuck to his calendar and schedule. He initiated investigations when he said he would. He named the suspects on schedule. He however summoned the suspects sooner that they had expected, to appear before Pre-trial Chamber II on 7th and 8th April 2011. Reality is setting in that nothing is going to change the course of Justice. Witnesses will testify including the man below. Soon it will be everyone for himself. Now who are the real ostriches with their heads deep in the sand , the ones with wishful thinking that uhuru and ruto will go after each other or the ones saying as it is political leaders fear working with ODM-R(Raila) due to his history of falling out with all the political figures he has ever worked with . While some of us speculate how Ruto and Uhuru will go after each other they are in Eastern and Central tearing ODM-R apart. The reception that Ruto is getting from Uhurus political base is not that of a man never wanted in that land as being put by some people. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQscFoAOlcM&feature=player_embedded [/youtube] We’re in 2012 race, say Hague duo www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/We+are+in+2012+race+say+Hague+duo+++/-/1064/1134244/-/p2q1o3/-/index.htmlIf you happened to see yesterdays Rutos interview in Citizen you will clearly understand his main political rival is none other than Raila-All the questions asked were twisted to criticize Raila . We have seen ODM-R plotting the fall off by claiming that Mau IDPs of Kalenjin origin have been left in the cold while IDPs of Kikuyu origin have been relocated and the Uhuru should be held responsible . Did it work ? No We have seen tablings of how the devolution issue will disorganize the Uhuru -Ruto co-operation but this also is bound to fail . Wait and see the heros welcome the 2 will be granted once they return from the hague after heeding the summons . Ok, if a PNU minister incriminated ,Ruto so what ? Will lead to Uhuru /Ruto fallout?- Certainly no - the best for Uhuru is to do away with that minister as his political associate -same with Ruto if this scenerio is in his camp. Mind you their alliance is not like ODM-R where you clearly see Midiwo, Orengo, Kajwang and Nyongo being a liability to Raila but he is doing nothing about it resulting to further divisions in ODM pitting Nyanza party members vs Coast /Riftvalley and Western. [youtube] Well as said earlier this is a case of wanting to hear what one believes or hopes for rather than the reality .This is really what ODM-R and its supporters as a whole are suffering from /
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 27, 2011 15:24:25 GMT 3
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Submitted by faluma Posted March 26, 2011 04:55 PM
I have read the article and Duale is not making sense. I have also in the past listened to your speeches but I am afraid to mention that you don't come convincing at all. My understanding is that you are blaming the entire government if not, you have chosen to be selective which is really worrying.
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Submitted by kamaumuigai Posted March 26, 2011 04:47 PM
He might be independent but lacks ground for his opposition thereby ending up as an opposer of anything that touches on PM. He is doing well in terms of news coverage even when he is obviously not stating a point. Let him tone down a bit.
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Submitted by Oatmeal Posted March 26, 2011 04:03 PM
having served in the forces myslef, i will not be wrong to point out that majority of the people from this region can't withstand tough training,always came up with excuses, NYS should have made him even better, exgeratted report from doctor on Ulcers
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Submitted by wuonlo Posted March 26, 2011 02:14 PM
Being a rebel and wating recognition at the expense of others is another!So which one are you Duale?
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Submitted by wafua_ke Posted March 26, 2011 01:17 PM
At last there is some fresh air in the ODM house which is full of logs awash with the sheep mentality of being hearded by a few individuals who won't stand divergent views.Show them Mhe.Duale.
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Submitted by jfeo Posted March 26, 2011 12:48 PM
He provides a necessary diversity in our parliamnet.
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Submitted by thenemy Posted March 26, 2011 11:57 AM
what a great kenyan , keep it up mr Duale
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Submitted by gararan Posted March 26, 2011 11:57 AM
Okay to be a rebel but show us tangible evidence why you are rebelling.
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Submitted by somaliweyn Posted March 26, 2011 11:22 AM
The MP is over excited by the politics of outdoing each other and hoping to gain attention from the media,He has done alot for his constituents but his association with human right violator's suspects speaks volumes about his contempt for justice.
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Submitted by mig74 Posted March 26, 2011 10:59 AM
was raila as a person to change govt regulations on ids? was he to tarmac roads in garissa from his pocket? really these politicians think kenyans are fools.
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Submitted by wuodmin74 Posted March 26, 2011 10:53 AM
This guy should be charged for forgery in collusion with his doctor to evade what was then a legal compulsory requirement.He should also tell us how and who has politicised the ICC process.Pretending to fight for those 'people being locked out of the 2012 presidential elections' is also hero worshiping otherwise why cant he stand for president himself in 2012?
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Submitted by marston Posted March 26, 2011 10:33 AM
A person who relied on "an exagerated letter" from a doctor to evade what was then a lawful enlistment is not actually a "leader" fit for the current political dispensation Kenyans yearn for. You Appear as the MPs PR point man.
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Submitted by hassanm09 Posted March 26, 2011 10:20 AM
come on duale yuo are the kind of leader we have been looking for since the inception of multipartism in kenya.we are rigtfully behind yuo go and take the bull by its horn,yuo have what it takes to be agreat leader.
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Submitted by Fikiria Posted March 26, 2011 09:57 AM
If you loose your seat Hon. Duale, the general could as well tell the people 'I told you' and you could face a tough battle against your 'mwanyumba' Korane. Watch out!
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Submitted by mocampo Posted March 26, 2011 08:53 AM
I admire your courage mrDuale but you are too much loudy and self-centered and vengeful
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Submitted by mugambibg Posted March 26, 2011 06:45 AM
I haven't seen no point in Duale's argument. I think he is just a hardened rebel! Babo hauja komaa!
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Submitted by wawerugithiri Posted March 26, 2011 04:32 AM
I agree with his attitude.
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Submitted by unwanted Posted March 26, 2011 03:56 AM
dont side with lawyers.they defend all kind of vices and convert lies into truth.when things turn sour to them they pretend to represent their constituents but again we know them.if every body is for hague why him to as for defferal.lies.he knows he's been cornered so he is trying to run away.he shuld be told to emmulate danson mungatana.he is quiet and reasoning not like past
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Submitted by bendadi Posted March 26, 2011 01:12 AM
I personally do not support dictatorship and i agree with Mr.Duale on that point because that is his personal opinion. I however dont see any valid points in his argument especially the Hague issue.I also sense a lack of interlect in Mr. Duale's reasoning.He seems like a person who just wants to attract masses by pretending to be rebellious. You dont oppose your seniors just for the sake of it!!
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 27, 2011 14:44:16 GMT 3
Kaburwo, This is a case of wanting to hear what one believes or hopes for rather than the reality and this is really what ODM-Raila or as they call it here on ground ODM-R supporters are "suffering" from .
ODM as party had its founding members from various ends of the country coming at a time when they had defeated wakos draft back in 2005.
All the sides from ODM wanted to run for the top post and at that time ODM-Kalonzo as it is known down here as ODM-K was the top contender based on the reviews , ratings, surveys and the pollsters .
To upsurge this ODM-R hired crooks and the the same pollsters to counter the ODM-Ks ratings in readiness for ODM presidential nominations.
ODM-M( Mudavadi) had seen a revival in his political career thus was content just being in that level playground with the likes of ODM-B(Balala) , ODM-U(uhuru) (Lest we forget he was a founding member) ,ODM-W(William Ruto)ODM-R, and ODM-K.
Back to the point . Once ODM-U realised ODM-K had been cornered and would not be able to get the mantle to run for the presidential elections as the supported candidate he did what he did to save his political career banking in future (read now) and opted to support Kibaki .
ODM-W realizing riftvalley were going to support the most anti-kibaki vocal leader that being ODM-R deemed it necessary and beneficial for him to adhere to what his political base wanted in that time but plotting how he would get that wave on his side in future(read now)
ODM-K decided rather than losing relevance he would vie for presidency at that time while fronting and reaching out in future for ODM-U , ODM-B and ODM -W and uniting and forming a formidable political union (read now)
Unfortunately ODM-M and ODM-R could not read the tell signs and are now wondering where they went wrong.
The truth of the matter is that ODM-R is seen as the incumbent with Kibaki leaving the political scene and not anointing any individual to run for the 2012 presidential elections .A deja vu of 2002 and 2007 elections.
The Uhurus,Rutos,Balalas,Duales Kalonzo and the johny come lates the likes of Wamalwa Kombo Magaras et all realized this and are hitting the nail on the head to gain political mileage .
Has it worked . The answer is a big Yes .........compare political lives of Wamalwas ,Uhurus ,Ruto , Balala and Duales as at March 2008 and now March -2011 vis a vis Railas Mudavadi and Karuas .
Bottom line for the political heavyweights its about Raila Vs the Rest and this can be confirmed by what the print & visual media has been showing of late especially this weekend .
The wishful thinking that the rest will go after each other has no basis and the more ODM-R believes it will happen the more it will hurt ODM-R political matrix come 2012 elections
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 26, 2011 13:18:16 GMT 3
I shall be grateful if you could enlighten some of us on what your core message or point is on this one 1.Confusion and Contradiction within ODM brought about by divisions in the party will cause further fallouts eroding the support of the party where it previously had massive following. 2.It is too late to try to woo back the ODM Rebels. Generally after it is all said and done ordinary wananchis can see the writings on the wall for ODM, but ODM-Railas supporters are turning a blind eye on the political events at their own peril.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 26, 2011 12:22:26 GMT 3
One hot morning in April 1988, a baby-faced waria – a euphemism for Somali – student was set to join the National Youth Service (NYS) in Gilgil.
With three principal passes from Moi Forces Academy in Nairobi, he qualified to join university but the NYS induction was mandatory.
Two weeks later, young Aden Bare Duale was ready to forfeit his place at university “if the only way to join it was a further three-and-a-half months at the NYS”.
He actually left Gilgil but it was only after a doctor at the Rift Valley General Hospital wrote an exaggerated report about his ulcers that he was finally exempted from the training.
“I did not see the point of all those military drills when I wanted to study law. I loathed following a person’s orders without question,” Duale, now the MP for Dujis, says.
That is just a glimpse of how Duale dislikes authoritarianism.
Among fellow Members of Parliament, opinion on him is split depending on which age bracket one is in.
For the older politicians, he is an excitable first-term MP who speaks too much and needs a little experience to slow him down. To his party leader and officials, he is an irritant who will talk with careless abandon on things that most members will rather not touch.
To fellow backbenchers, he is a voluble, controversial and independent-minded politician without the burden of loyalty to party chiefs.
To capture the seat, he defied former Chief of General Staff Mohamud Mohamed, hitherto a key factor in North Eastern politics for more than three decades.
The General preferred former district commissioner Ali Korane for the seat, which covers part of Garissa Town, the headquarters of the arid region.
Incidentally, both Korane and Duale are married to the General’s daughters.
Duale first faced Korane in the ODM nominations where he beat him. He beat him again at the ballot, much to the chagrin of the General.
Today, he is the “odd man out” in the ODM army of rebels and is accused of rocking the party from within. He is the only MP outside the Rift Valley who has the audacity to publicly criticise party leader Raila Odinga.
And he has become too much of a thorn in the party’s flesh that he is marked for expulsion and possible loss of his seat.
“The only people I owe anything are my constituents. I cannot toe a line, which I do not believe in,” he says.
Opinion on his rebellion in the larger Garissa is split.
Ibrahim Warabow, a businessman, thinks Duale is wrong as he did not seek his constituents’ authority to shift allegiance.
“We gave him the seat through ODM because he told us it was good. In the same vein, he should have asked us for direction if he later found the party was bad.”
However, Hajir Dahiye, a business rival from neighbouring Lagdera says Duale’s independence is a rare trait in North Eastern where leaders have to be sycophants to remain afloat.
[glow=red,2,300]“I think he has read the mood of the region well. We are charting another political path in 2012,” Dahiye says. [/glow] So who is this small man who has captured the limelight in the largest political party in the country?
Duale was born in Balambala in Garissa in 1969 in a family of eight. He attended Boys Town Primary, a mission school, after his mother Hawa Kosar, a small-scale businesswoman, moved the family and left the father to herd cattle back home.
“Having one meal per day was like a rule. My mother struggled to feed all of us but urged us never to be dependent on anyone for food,” says Duale, suggesting where his independence originated.
He had always wanted to be a politician and at Garissa High School, he headed the debating club and was dormitory captain, a post he would also hold at Moi Forces Academy in 1987.
He was offered a place at Moi University, but failed to make it into the law class because of the quota system. He was forced to study economics and history but there was no way Duale would be a teacher.
When he was posted to Sankuri Secondary School in 1992, he did not last two terms.
Regarded by friends as “a man in a hurry to finish things” Duale agrees he does not like spending time on enterprises that do not bring returns.
He worked as a clerical officer at the Garissa Provincial Commissioner’s office for only six months before he decided the pay was too low.
“I joined the family business because there was more money,” he says.
It is this experience that groomed Duale into a shrewd businessman with substantial wealth.
Blessed with a nose for money and a perfectionist attitude where he goes for what he wants at full throttle, Duale owns Medina Chemicals, a firm that supplies veterinary products in North Eastern, Somalia, Djibouti and South Sudan.
When not in Parliament or at Medina Chemicals, he runs a large cattle ranch at the Coast with other members of the Livestock Traders and Marketing Society of Kenya. He was the brains behind this organisation in 1997, a move that endeared him to pastoralists for helping them open up their market.
In fact, he owes a large part of his political clout to the organisation, which is credited with lobbying for the revival of the Kenya Meat Commission and opening up exports, including of live animals.
A man who is strictly at home by 6.30pm every day, Duale is known in the Muslim fraternity as a deeply religious family man.
“I never do business after six. I leave the evenings for my wife and children,” says the father of five boys.
Saturday Nation spoke to the Dujis MP.
You were very active campaigning for ODM and Raila Odinga. Why is he a bad man now?
I have realised he deceived us during the elections. None of the things he promised North Eastern have been addressed. He does not keep promises. That’s why people in the Rift Valley are also angry with him. He also does not entertain divergent views. When you support him, he is very good, but when you ask questions, he rallies his troops to attack you.
What did the Prime Minister promise? [glow=red,2,300] First, he did not honour the Memorandum of Understanding we had with him as Muslims. Then the issue of discrimination over passports and identity cards. Drilling of boreholes and tarmacking of roads are yet to be touched. He also promised us more health facilities. What irks us most is that all these projects fall under ODM ministers. [/glow]
Some of your colleagues say you are opposing Mr Odinga because he did not appoint you to Cabinet?
I was elected MP and Cabinet is the prerogative of the President. The Prime Minister had limited options for his list, only that he chose people who cannot help him politically.
What if the party succeeds in expelling you and you lose your seat?
[glow=red,2,300]I will urge anyone who thinks this is possible to read the Political Parties Act and the new constitution properly. But I am ready to face the electorate again and I know I will win comfortably. Again, how can a party whip expel a vice-chairman? [/glow] You are a major proponent of deferral of the ICC process. Why?
The Hague issue has been politicised and abused. It is meant to lock out some presidential hopefuls from the 2012 race. It is also an aspect of neo-colonialism. Why is the US keen on it, yet they are not members? It is a pity that a Kenyan should ever be tried at The Hague.
What have you done for your people at the local level?
I have worked with the government and various NGOs on projects like the Garissa water and sewerage plant, the Garissa power project and I support more than 400 students through a bursary. We have begun to see road works in the county.
What happens in the run-up to 2012?
[glow=red,2,300]I will definitely be out of ODM because I cannot worship a personality I have joined forces with leaders calling for generational change..[/glow]
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 26, 2011 11:52:55 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 26, 2011 11:36:43 GMT 3
Fellow Kenyans, considering the fact that one of the leaders running for presidency includes one Raila Amollo Odinga as running for the presidency come 2012, let us separate the wheat from the chaff as regards this presidential candidate, my list includes “Raila failures”, please read on: Raila's leadership has to be questioned. The man has a problem if he is not flip flopping, lying, he is double speaking! How come there is always trouble and disagreement where he is involved .That says something about the man .We can’t blame other leaders its time Luos took a hard look at the kind of leaders they chose to represent them cases in example: 1. Original FORD-Raila and his father refusing to support Masinde Muliro 2. FORD-Kenya-Raila clashing and disagreeing with Kijana Wamalwa 3. NDP-trouble with NDP Founder eventually kicked out by Raila 4. KANU-Raila disagreeing with Moi. 5. NARC-Raila disagreeing with Kibaki. 6. ODM -Raila disagreeing with Kalonzo 7. ODM - Raila disagreeing with Ruto 8. ODM -Balala walks out of ODM, a party he helped found 9. ODM- Ngilu silently abandons the party and goes silent on issues touching on ODM. 10. ODM- Riftvalley Mps silently walks out of ODM in disagreement on how the Party was being run. You can't tell us that everyone has a problem but Raila, that all those politicians were bad and that Raila has always been right .what kind of leadership would Raila bring to Kenya if he cant agree with anyone .With him its always my way or the highway, that is not the kind of leader that Kenya needs .In as much as we need a strong leader we need a leader who is able to listen to other leaders and what the country is saying .Raila is simply not that man. As the rest of Africa is doing away with dictators why should we be rushing to create one? Welcome to Jukwaa . The analysis above has some bits of truth though I disagree on the part of Raila's father . The above script on Raila can be summarized by this song
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 26, 2011 11:08:19 GMT 3
Kalonzo is not going anywhere . The first lady is being itched by the mention of the second wife by Kalonzo in the cables .Raila is on book talking ill of Kibakis health kenyastockholm.com/2011/03/21/wikileaks-releases-nairobi-cable-no-48-raila-said-kibaki-cannot-appear-in-public-without-medication/ but the first lady decides to unleash the "wrath" on Kalonzo only and the media runs with the story to sell the papers. Will this affect the political trajectory? the answer is simply NO . Dependent on if Kibaki will run again for a third term his political base will be inherited by non other than Uhuru and Kalonzo . so all the hollabaloo she says she said will have no impact on the political life of Kalonzo and it will be dead news once Uhuru and Ruto speak out on their support for Kalonzo .
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 25, 2011 17:27:49 GMT 3
Kenyan politics are dynamic and will remain dynamic until some maturity is achieved in the politics scene and that maybe 30 years down the lane. Just like our politicians who are in their sunset years when they were young they were craving for democratic space and it was only achieved by 2002.
The politics of 1997 were not the same as the politics of 2002 nor were they the same as politics of 2007 this implies that the 2012 politics wont be a replica of what has been there before - Who in this world though Raila will append support to Kibaki in 2002 . Who thought Kalonzo would form a Coalition with Kibaki in 2008 just months after the hot campaigns of 2007. Politics is a dirty game and this was proven in the 2007 elections where ODM wanted to get hold of the country by all means hook or crook even peddling propaganda that the elections were "stolen" creating a new vocabulary to go hand in hand with elections never heard before in this world .
Kalonzo has continued serving the president as his vice and has not "kigeugeud" him unlike the prime minister who has in more than one occasion contradicted the president even after agreeing on something.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 25, 2011 15:48:04 GMT 3
Confusion in ODM - Raila Contradicts Nyongo , Nyongo contradicts Namwamba www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1132864/-/7q6x04/-/index.htmlA section of ODM legislators allied to Eldoret North MP William Ruto have challenged the party’s top leadership to state its actual stand on the post election violence trials. Related Stories * ODM confusion over legal aid for ICC suspects Even though the MPs - Joshua Kutuny (Cherangany) and Benjamin Langat (Ainamoi)- welcomed the party’s ‘belated about turn’ to have the Ocampo six tried locally, they expressed concern over the mixed signals from the party’s leadership. “On Tuesday, ODM Secretary General Anyang' Nyong'o said the party had climbed down from having the six tried at the ICC in favour of a credible local judicial mechanism,” the duo said at a news conference in parliament. “But strangely on Wednesday, Prime Minister Raila Odinga stated that the six should go to the ICC and have their names cleared contradicting the party position which he was party to a day earlier,” they added. “On Thursday, ODM again contradicted itself as usual with the party’s leadership speaking from both sides of the mouth.” They said that while 10 MPs led by Deputy Secretary General Joseph Nkaiserry and parliamentary group secretary Ababu Namwamba said the party had resolved to hire lawyers to represent their members mentioned by the ICC, Mr Nyong’o strangely denounced this. The three are: party chairman Henry Kosgey, deputy party leader William Ruto and radio presenter Joshua arap Sang. “What then is the official party position on the ICC trials?” they posed. “Who in ODM should be trusted?” Meanwhile, Mr Sang has cautiously welcomed the move the ODM to hire lawyers to represent him. In a statement, the radio presenter said he hoped ODM was acting in good faith to retain legal experts for him and MPs Ruto and Kosgey. "I have already stated that I have limited resources. I welcome any assistance directed at me. I gratefully accept any help that is given to me in good faith and within reason," he said. He, however, maintained that he was not a member of the Orange party saying he wished to separate party loyalties and his vocation. "I have never said I am a member of ODM. The question of my party membership is personal. "As a journalist, I keep issues of my party loyalties personal and separate from my calling and vocation in media." Through the advise of his lawyers, Katwa Kigen, Joel Bosek and Philemon Koech, Mr Sang denied allegations of his involvement in the post election violence that left 1,133 people dead 650,000 uprooted from their homes. ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo named the KASS FM presenter alongside Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta, head of Civil Service Francis Muthaura, Postmaster General Hussein Ali and MPs Ruto and Kosgey as suspected masterminds of the chaos. "As is already in public knowledge the ICC Prosecutor has made allegations against me to the effect that I was in the year 2007 a member of ODM party, and I continue to be a member. Further that I incited people on post election violence for and on behalf of ODM. "I deny these allegations," he said.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 25, 2011 9:37:04 GMT 3
The state of confusion in ODM is alarming and will result to further falling outs in the party Writing to U.N. Council why the I.C.C. cases should not be deferred or referred then doing a U-turn and running in the local media saying O.D.M. has always been advocating for a referral and now the lawyers issue . This just shows what kind of party it is coming at a time when also the media wakes up and call it as it is that their leader Raila falling short of threshold needed to win presidency without a runoff www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000031880&cid=4&If this is a plot to woo the ODM rebels back(Read Rutos Duales Balalas ) then it will fail miserably . These politicians and their political base have already made up their mind and come next elections will be running on their own regional parties and not ODM and the happenings just proves this From this link it is evident ODM now risk losing the muslim vote .Duale and Balala should go on and plot something about this but sugarcoat it as not a muslim party . www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000031879&cid=4&
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 24, 2011 18:41:32 GMT 3
Although I usually don't believe such "surveys" or opinion polls It seems the ground is shifting for the RT Hon PM .Stronghold remaining as Nairobi and Nyanza . Nairobi is and has always remained a tricky political base.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 24, 2011 18:35:47 GMT 3
Nearly half of the Kenyan population still has confidence in the coalition government. A survey by an East African research group, TNS indicates that 47 percent of Kenyans would vote for the coalition government if elections were held today, an increase from last year's 23 percent. The report conducted late last month places Prime Minister Raila Odinga as the most favored presidential candidate with strongholds in Nairobi and Nyanza regions. The findings of the research conducted between the last week of February 2011 and this month shows that nearly 17 million Kenyans have confidence in the government. President Kibaki's performance as the head of state stands at 65 percent with higher ratings in Central and Rift Valley regions with Odinga following closely at 62 percent with high ratings in Nyanza and Nairobi regions. 33 percent of Kenyans interviewed would vote for Raila as president if elections were held today, with Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta coming in second at 14 percent, a surge on his ratings compared to last year. Vice president Kalonzo Musyoka and former higher education minister William Ruto are in third position with equal popularity of 12 percent. If president Kibaki were to make a comeback in the presidential race, 8 percent of those interviewed would vote for him. Martha Karua and Eugene Wamalwa are tied at 2 percent. Politics aside, 37 percent of Kenyans believe corruption has declined compared to last year with 39 percent of those interviewed opting for penalties as the way forward to get rid of the vice www.kbc.co.ke/news.asp?nid=69486
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 23, 2011 15:13:08 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 23, 2011 11:42:45 GMT 3
The 85 % "Kenyans " prefer Hague Song by some Jukwaaist has changed . Hypocrisy at its best.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 22, 2011 11:36:46 GMT 3
Tribal tagging for political mobilization letter to the Chairman, National Cohesion and Integration Commission My attention has been drawn to the ongoing debate about the so-called Kikuyu, Kalenjin and Kamba alliance (KKK). I note with grave concern that the so-called KKK has been associated with myself and other leaders. To the best of my understanding, the branding of certain leaders as KKK is divisive because it purports to bring together some communities to the exclusion of others. This is against national unity, integration and cohesion. Further, the KKK tag is against the spirit of the new Constitution that the country recently enacted. It is instructive to note that the current debate on the KKK tag is taking the same pattern reminiscent of the perceptions that fueled tribal animosity and tagging for political mobilisation in the run up to the 2007 election. This misinformation, actively propagated from certain quarters, has the potential of pitting other communities against the said communities illegitimately associated with the KKK and vice versa and must be stopped forthwith. The KKK tag is being used as a tool to deny certain leaders the right of association. Mr Chairman, the continued referral to the KKK tag and further association of it with myself, despite my repeated public rejection of the idea of tribal alliances, can only be interpreted as a deliberate and sustained campaign to malign my name and good standing among Kenyans of all walks of life, ethnicity and creed. Further, it is designed to portray me as having an agenda that is tribalistic, exclusionary and against the principles of cohesion. The irresponsible use of this tag by certain politicians, foreign diplomats and its perpetuation by the media is creating a fertile ground for retrogressive politics of ethnicity and tribalism and must be construed as hate speech. Additionally, the KKK tag is designed to deny me my constitutional right to associate with other leaders from all walks of life and all parts of the country. It is my constitutional right to associate with other Kenyans without tribal tags being pinned on me. Mr Chairman, in respect of the foregoing and in the interest of public good and furtherance of your statutory mandate, I ask that you give guidance to the country to the effect that the continued use of the KKK tag is against national unity, cohesion and integration. I also request you to declare that the KKK tag is being used to set communities against one another. I ask your commission to investigate those propagating the KKK tag and their intentions and, if found guilty, to prosecute them. We cannot afford to see our beloved country succumb to the dark forces of ethnic bigotry, impunity and hatred as it did in the last election. I deem it my personal responsibility as a nationalist, a citizen and a leader to play my role in ensuring that this does not happen. Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5043&page=2#ixzz1HJcnDcYR
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 20, 2011 12:01:57 GMT 3
I made some pretty cocky predictions about 2010 and so far so good because the way things are happening I am being made to look pretty good. One of the things I said about 2010 is that it will be the year of the sucker punch. Now here is a possible sucker punch that beats them all. The truth is that I have been listening to some far-fetched claims about president Kibaki seeking re-election in 2012 with plenty of skepticism. But never forget that the most unexpected things happen in politics pretty often. Maybe too often for comfort. Mtukufu Rais Kibaki mama na baba wa taifa mkuu wa majeshi yote ya Kenya na nje. And just like Moi you don't dare breathe without singing his praises. A few things have made me sit up and change my mind about the Kibaki re-election stories. Most of it I cannot share here because I often receive information that I am NOT allowed to use for various reasons. But let me summarize the information I am talking about by saying that the behaviour of Kibaki handlers, more so in recent weeks does not suggest that they may be packing their bags preparing to leave the corridors of power in 2012. In fact their actions point in the opposite direction. Suggesting that they are in power to stay. Instead of starting to remove personal pictures on the walls folks are ordering new expensive furniture so to speak. Just a figure of speech. Now as I was working on this post, a tweet by government spokesman Alfred Mutua made my hand freeze on the keyboard. Let me reproduce the Tweet here; Government is contracting TPain, Young Jeezy and 50Bob to remix Tawala Kenya Tawala to "Tawala Kibaki Tawala" Government spokesperson Alfred Mutua has tweeted this information. Now I appreciate and respect the fact that when the song Tawala Kenya first assaulted the ears of long suffering Kenyans, most of our loudest-mouthed commentators here in this blog were at best still in diapers and at worst were not yet even a sperm determinedly swimming towards fertilizing some unfortunate ovary. I was a very young lad then. But young enough to be aware of what was going on. It was a good tune but I sensed lots of unease and even annoyance in Kenyans about the song. Years later I was to discover that the song was designed to help boost confidence in the then shaky Daniel arap Moi trying to step into the huge shoes of Jomo Kenyatta with the long bloody shadows of the Kiambu Mafia hanging over him. Now the government (that really means Mutua and the president’s closest handlers) has decided to release a new version of the song in praise of Kibaki and his leadership. Now why would anybody want to do that in the twilight of their administration? Unless… …Of course!!! Unless they knew something that the rest of us Kenyans did not know. As I write this the draft constitution is in parliament and Kenyans would do well to remember what President Bill Clinton said in his biography about how law making is pretty much like manufacturing sausages. For those who don’t get the picture let me help. Picture this guy who has not trimmed his nails for a while handling and stuffing bits of minced meat to make sausages. Then there is this guy who has just returned to his work station from a call of nature in some toilet that smells so bad that the smell in itself has succeeded in chasing away flies. And this toilet has no toilet paper. And since we all know that there is no water in Nairobi the man dives straight back and clasps a large chunk of the stuff that makes your favourite sausages. None of this will cross your mind when you grab the beautifully packaged sausages at the super market. Or chew that nice brown fried sausage, lick you lips and grab more from the dish. And so Clinton’s point and my point here is that Kenyans who are all expecting a constitution close to perfection should relax and forget it and remember that deals and counter deals are going to be made in the final chiseling going on just now. Yes making laws is pretty dirty business anywhere in the world, now imagine a whole constitution and there are so many interests to be protected and sins to be covered up. In other words it is not a far-fetched dream that the new constitution will allow Kibaki to stand for a third and even fourth term. Need I remind you that when the limited reforms of 2002 were passed limiting the term of a president to two terms Moi was able to run for another two terms? Most opposition MPs hurriedly agreed because nobody believed that Moi (who had never stood in a seriously competitive election in his entire life before then) would win re-election (by whatever means) back to State House in 2002. And that could be the exact feeling that many have about Emilio Mwai Kibaki. After all, Moi who never saw the inside of a university ruled Kenya for 24 years. How can a former university don rule for only 10 short years? Tawala Kenya tawala, rais Kibaki tawala Kenya tawala… Unongoza vyema rais Kibaki unongoza vyema Rough translation: Rule Kenya president Kibaki, you are ruling very well, continue to rule Kenya. Oh boy!!! Will the last man leaving Kenya remember to switch off the lights… that is if the switch is still there. kumekucha.blogspot.com/2010/03/more-and-more-evidence-that-kibaki-may.html
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 20, 2011 11:02:07 GMT 3
Another massive rally to be held in Coast Province - Just but a confirmation that 2012 elections will be about regional parties . The presidential hopefuls should expect regional parties to offer support during the presidential elections run-off . As it is now ,seems ODM-Raila's wing has not learned something about the shifting political calculations .Could this be the reason the UKs and Rutos made sure the Prime Ministers office was scrapped from the constitution ? in Naivasha .
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 19, 2011 19:18:57 GMT 3
eputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto roared into Bungoma County Saturday amid cheers from the local residents.
The two leaders had been invited by Saboti MP Eugene Wamalwa to galvanize their working relationship as they gear up for the general election next year.
This was in defiance of an earlier protestation by some human rights activists who had objected the rally being held in Bungoma even as 800 families still remained in the camps since 1992.
Ruto praised Eugene for stepping forward to lead the Luhya Community even as the likes of Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Local Government, Musalia Mudavadi faltered in his political standing.
Ruto criticized Mudavadi saying the Luhya community was not united hence it could not lead terming the position held by Mudavadi as "the gospel of Satan".
Ruto asked the region to form a democratic party that would ensure that one of their own is elected to the top most office in the land. "Only hard work and unity will help you realize success," said Ruto.
He wondered how a party like ODM which he had supported and tirelessly worked for could turn around and write to the International Criminal Court asking the ICC to jail him.
"We shall go to The Hague and we shall return," declared Ruto. Former Funyula MP Dr Julia Ojiambo who handed over the Labour Party of Kenya - LPK to Saboti MP Eugene Wamalwa congratulated Uhuru and Ruto for keeping together and their union with Eugene Wamalwa saying its now their chance and time to lead the country.
Nominated MP Musikari Kombo is backing Eugene Wamalwa in his efforts to go for the top office as a representative of the Luhya community.
He accused Sirisia MP Moses Wetangula of dividing the community.
Kombo who garlanded Uhuru, Ruto and Eugene with spears as a sign of handing over leadership to the younger generation, urged Uhuru and Ruto to support Eugene, Kombo said the Luhya community will identify the party through which Eugene will use in his quest to ascend to the top most office in the land.
Former MP and Assistant Minister for Trade Omingo Magara lashed at ODM for mistreating him. Magara who attended the Bungoma rally called by Saboti MP Eugene Wamalwa called on Wamalwa, Ruto and Uhuru to be honest to one another and work together.
Water Assistant Minister Ferdindand Waititu questioned how people who had been calling for violence for over 30 years were left out of the Ocampo list.
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