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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 17, 2012 13:26:26 GMT 3
And OO, is there a chance, however remote, that you are being set up for a huge fall and/or disapointment by Miguna Miguna, your friendship of 20+ years not withstanding? Are you sure that 6 months from now, you wouldn't be coming to Jukwaa and telling us that you really didn't know Miguna, coz one thing is for certain, you never know someone until you know them... Mbuta:You have a fertile imagination. The other thing you seem to have is a lot of times on your hands. Onyango Oloo
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Post by mbuta on Jul 17, 2012 13:27:19 GMT 3
Mbuta:
What won't you buy? That Miguna had a long planned vacation... I do not have a kiosk and I was not trying to vend anything to you. No need to get cute, figure of speech if you ever heard one... Does Miguna call a press conference to announce whenever he is going to take a shower, call an auntie or buy bananas in Kiambu? Not really and I don't think Kenyans care much whether he takes shower using Dettol or Sabuni Miti...I don't deny it would be interesting info though...And commuting from Runda to Kiambu to get Bananas does not make economic sense,but what do I know, I have never run a business... Why would he feel COMPELLED to inform the entire world when he is taking his family on holiday? Ooh no, not the entire world..the rest of the world is busy glued to Kim Kardashian's wardrobe malfunctions...its Kenyans who would like to know, since he you know, he threw the gauntlet with the Come Baby Come riff...I mean Kenyans loved it so much that they have turned it into a ringtone...talk about creativity...now someone has to take the unenviable task of reprogramming it to "Gone Baby Gone" But Mbuta, you and I know that some of you on Jukwaa seem to have nothing to do with their lives except unleashing a brand new anti-Miguna thread every half hour. Ooh,well...life has its disappoints...
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Post by mbuta on Jul 17, 2012 13:28:10 GMT 3
And OO, is there a chance, however remote, that you are being set up for a huge fall and/or disapointment by Miguna Miguna, your friendship of 20+ years not withstanding? Are you sure that 6 months from now, you wouldn't be coming to Jukwaa and telling us that you really didn't know Miguna, coz one thing is for certain, you never know someone until you know them... Mbuta:You have a fertile imagination. The other thing you seem to have is a lot of times on your hands. Onyango OlooEr....Thank you?
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 17, 2012 13:31:07 GMT 3
OO Frankly speaking, I am beginning to find your postings in defense of Miguna irritating-very irritating. When all is written, your kowtowing to the worst of human flaws and idiocy (in MM) will definitely be a blot on your reform credentials. You mean Nalinali finds it VERY irritating when I correct the lies and distortions? Well, there is more of that as long as people insist on slandering Miguna. By the way, I am still waiting for your long promised take down of my performance as MC. Take a chill pill, Nalinali. Onyango Oloo
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Post by kaburwo on Jul 17, 2012 13:35:41 GMT 3
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Post by nalinali on Jul 17, 2012 13:39:09 GMT 3
OO Frankly speaking, I am beginning to find your postings in defense of Miguna irritating-very irritating. When all is written, your kowtowing to the worst of human flaws and idiocy (in MM) will definitely be a blot on your reform credentials. You mean find it irritating when I correct the lies and distortions? Well, there is more of that as long as people insist on slandering Miguna. By the way, I am still waiting for your long promised take down of my performance as MC. Take a chill pill, Nalinali. Onyango OlooOO You can not correct a lie when it is turning out that you and Miguna are a big lie Oloo. I really hope the contagion that is MM's low horizon is not catching on. may I advice you to instead sit back and stop responding to every post critical of MM's farce please. You need to salvage your reputation and defending MM in what now appears to be an intellectually smothering obeisance ain't one of the ways to do it. Take my advise
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Post by okolowaka on Jul 17, 2012 13:41:54 GMT 3
...Gone on vacation to Canada as OO says or to market his book "abroad" as the Standard Newspaper reports... Miguna's "exile/disappearing act" story is going viral... NTV fb page update on Miguna's "exile" has recorded 600 replies within 1Hr of breaking the act, WOW! Anyway let him enjoy his hard earned vacation or marketing trip, the fire Miguna has lit will still be burning one month later...
ION Sarah Elderkin's blow by blow rejoinder has had Miguna unleash the race card. Ooh Sarah is white... Ooh Sara's grandfather was a white slave master. Ooh how can Raila love a white slave master's daughter...? This Miguna dude really needs some good advice to chill, calm down some... This circus now has black people vs white people angle... "Jokers"....
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Post by nalinali on Jul 17, 2012 13:43:48 GMT 3
...Gone on vacation to Canada or to market his book "abroad" as the Standard Newspaper reports. Anyway let him enjoy his hard earned vacation or marketing trip, the fire Miguna has lit will still be burning one month later... ION Sarah Elderkin's blow by blow rejoinder has had Miguna unleash the race card. Ooh Sarah is white... Ooh Sara's grandfather was a white slave master. Ooh how can Raila love a white slave master's daughter...? This Miguna dude really needs some good advice to chill, calm down some... This circus now has black people vs white people angle... "Jokers".... I gather then that Canada is a Black African country.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 17, 2012 13:44:02 GMT 3
Last comment on this Nalinali.
At least one decent Jukwaa member has been responsible enough to share the Capital FM link that verifies what I said earlier.
Please continue the hatefest.
I will be back later, on another thread, with something optimistic.
Onyango Oloo
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Post by kaburwo on Jul 17, 2012 13:44:12 GMT 3
BIG mouth, BIG ego but a COWARDLY exile ALL the TIME Kaburwo:Until you document to me whatever you have done contributing to justice and democracy in Kenya I will request you not to insult Kenyans who did more for the new Kenya than all the idle mouths who have made a blood sport out of castigating former political prisoners and exiles. There are exiles who fought for Kenya. Onyango OlooOf course "documenting" does not fall in the league of organic bitterness and commercialisation of lies. OO, don't sink into the rang of MM. Stay afloat brother. My travails for democracy did not include exile (physically) but my soul has always been. I don't consider what MM is doing and talking about as a product of genuine concern for democracy and pursuit of justice in Kenya. Certainly I am not as eloquent as you both in painting my tribulations but to monetise hubris is the steepest sink in calumny and political merchandising. Then there is ONE (former) exile who has never accepted that Kenyans have many more worries than to worship former exiled big mouths. Just because one was arrested and tortured by the police doesn't give one a free coupon to hawk hate and stir bitterness. What is so special about MM that you are wearing your fingers numb defending him? You are at liberty to cut me loose if you please.
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Post by euonyi on Jul 17, 2012 13:45:00 GMT 3
Kaburwo:Until you document to me whatever you have done contributing to justice and democracy in Kenya I will request you not to insult Kenyans who did more for the new Kenya than all the idle mouths who have made a blood sport out of castigating former political prisoners and exiles. Onyango Oloo I used to have a big problem with people who, on the basis of what they may have done for the country, make it sound almost unethical to question their credentials, not withstanding the lack of consistency that seems to be there which is what leads some to question their reform credentials. It is a bit like what happens with corruption: people decry all the forms and manifestations of it but keep quiet whenever that ill gotten wealth is lining their problems. I began by saying "I used to have a big problem". On reading OO's comment, I have come to realise that I still have that problem.
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Post by Ouali on Jul 17, 2012 14:07:34 GMT 3
Poor Onyango Oloo, why do you put yourself in this kaka! Have you become the miguna's nyapara or the gate keeper that you have to unleash at anyone who dare questions his character and tirades. I think you are doing yourself a disservice and how I wished you could lie low and let miguna fight his fight which will be of little help to himself. I just read Miguna's reply to sarah Elderkin and for once I can say miguna is not the intellectual authority he claims. When a man counters a woman's attack on him by invoking the said womans race and origins suffice is to say he has no intellectual tact nor real facts to urgue out his case. Yet he critises the white race for enslaving africans and he spent 20 good years in the same whitemans land as a runaway too scared to have his balls squeezed. And by the way why should Sarah pay what her great grandparents did against africans. Should we start judging miguna's behavior based on his fathers behavior or his grandfather's or he expects to be judged as miguna based solely on is character? Kaka Oloo please why is it that when any of your so called" friends" are questioned you all invoke their struggle for democracy. Does it mean therefore miguna should not have critisized Raila who has very few equals in kenya in terms of struggle for democratic space against Nyayo dictatorship. Or critisizing these chosen few is but a privilege of the same chosen few who by shear luck happened to be old enough or in university when things were very dark in kenya. What do you say of the kenyans who were in primary schools during these dark days are they lesser beings? Dont you know that every generation shapes its future and yours just did their part. Does this make them the untouchables. I think all kenyans are just as important as any of the railas, muites, Imanyaras, sikukus or Anyonas. Miguna has chosen his fight against Raila for his reasons which is in order but not you unless you declare so. It would be reasonable to take care lest you become collateral damage.
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Post by barmasaiengkeiyo on Jul 17, 2012 14:12:20 GMT 3
OO....i have never known you are so intolerant! It is not only you Onyango Oloo and Miguna who fought for Kenya's liberation. I was a University student in 1997 and we went to Saba Saba rally in Kamukunji. We were beaten so bad by police. I walked from Kamukunji to KU via mathare,mwigi-kasarani, Githurai. In the same time period, we commandeered a lorry in Thika rd. to take us to Karura because we wanted to support Prof Maathai in "taking back Karura". When i graduated, i was employed by TSC but a prominent ex-KANU man campaigned for my sacking. One day, the headmaster called me and told me" .....i don't want problems in this school". The same day, KANU youth wingers accosted me on my way home from school. The next few days, i received a letter from TSC terminating my employment "because you participated in politics". I secured employment in a private school in Eldy, but little did i know that one of the shareholders is a KANU politician. I did not live to teach my first Maths lesson. So, by you calling people idle mouths or any other adjective, do you mean that they never fought for Kenya's second liberation?? How are we suppose to document how we contributed to justice and democracy in Kenya? by sending you photos or prison files? AND by the way, not all of us were cowards enough to run to exile, and if we wanted to, we didn't have connections at US or UK or Canadian embassies. We chose to fight here rather than flee....
On the issue of Miguna, anyone who has read this book of peeling masks knows that 80% if not all is based on lies, revenge and anger..... Actually, Miguna reminds me of Esther Arunga (clever, confused, cowardly,"vengeant" and cheap)
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Post by kasuku on Jul 17, 2012 14:20:16 GMT 3
I am very surprised that the Administration is putting up with these embarrassing Insults he is getting from obviously a couple of idlers who are looking for a fight in the save cyberspace. (And you think of them calling MM a coward?)
And to you insulters, you have shown you know nothing about friendship. But please respect other people’s friendship. You being angry with Oloo for being MM friend is rather…well, foolish to say the less.
Am off Jukwaa till this Kindergaten gets a supervisor
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Post by Ouali on Jul 17, 2012 14:20:45 GMT 3
Kenya patriot this man miguna is not even clever. If he was clever he would carry himself better and in a more civil manner.You dont abuse people to come kiss your feet as you launch your memoires. And by the way clever people think before they act, this man stopped thinking the day he was sacked.
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Post by reporter911 on Jul 17, 2012 14:43:57 GMT 3
Miguna the KShs 33 million "Bark-peeler" has fled Kenya to evade police dragnet and countless lawsuits around his sleaze-filled hate memoirs which speak like a gossip story of a jilted lover about to commit a crime of passion. Developing story....... What? how dare he? ati Canada? after dishing allegations right, left and centre and showing off that he was withholding information about PEV.. yes How dare he.. ICC has long arms and if they want him to produce the evidence that he claims he is withholding not some fake hand written notes.. I mean hardcore tapes of the PM and some ODM politicians that he claims were involved in 2007-8 massacre of innocent Kenyans they will pick up Miguna from Canada. This guy is a joker ati Holiday with family after unleashing unsubstantiated allegations.. then running away so fast when the kitchen become too hot to handle.. Like a deer caught in the spotlight.. Anyone reading Miguna's gibberish on journalist Sarah rebut in regards to Miguna's allegations in his book must be scratching their heads and wondering? ati Sarah is white and bringing colonialism, slavery blaH blah...? is this guy for real? ? then why flee to a white mans country? I guess now he will be claiming to be a Canadian and revoke his dual citizenship... seek protection in Canada as a Canadian, out of reach of the Kenya law.
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Post by reporter911 on Jul 17, 2012 14:52:03 GMT 3
I am very surprised that the Administration is putting up with these embarrassing Insults he is getting from obviously a couple of idlers who are looking for a fight in the save cyberspace. (And you think of them calling MM a coward?) And to you insulters, you have shown you know nothing about friendship. But please respect other people’s friendship. You being angry with Oloo for being MM friend is rather…well, foolish to say the less. Am off Jukwaa till this Kindergaten gets a supervisor Enjoy your holiday.. this is about a guy who throw allegations around and insulted many, even claiming that he had proof of what happened during the 2007-2008 clashed, it is indeed surprises some people don't see this as a very serious issue instead chose to spew nonsense.. we are not here to discuss Miguna & Oloo's friendship!!Jukwaa members are asking Miguna to proof his allegations hiyo tuu.. and now he has run away and disappeared to Canada like a COWARD!! if he has all this information knowing many innocent Kenyans died during the PEV? why not share the information with either the KENYA POLICE, THE KENYA COURTS OR THE ICC? alah? Kenyans are not foolish.. he might make loads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ in book sales.. Kenyans don't care.. what Kenyans care about is how dare he withhold information he alleges that it touches the PEV happenings!! yes that is what is pissing off Kenyans!!! and if his allegations in regards to information on PEV are found to be false.. he should be looked up behind bars! no one should be allowed to play around or misuse the misfortune that befell many innocent Kenyans during PEV!!!!
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Post by kamalet on Jul 17, 2012 15:12:09 GMT 3
OO
I am honestly surprised that you would find time to respond to this mob lynching of Miguna your buddy. It is not worth your while and for some that want to have their own imagination on a fleeing Miguna, it only help suit their fancy.
Someone told me prior to the 2007 elections that the biggest danger of a Raila presidency to Kenyans was not Raila himself.....but the mobs that follow him. He called it a Mob Dictatorship where anyone disagreeing with Raila would meet the wrath of the mobs as opposed to from Raila and his government! The last couple of days have shown what the mobs can do...starting to the flack that Mutunga got at the suggestion of being a guest at the book launch to the time the book first appeared in the media!
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Post by Luol Deng on Jul 17, 2012 15:19:49 GMT 3
Kamale,
I am busy at the moment, but with what transpired at the launch, do you still honestly believe that the CJ gracing the occasion as a guest of honour would have been a good idea?
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Post by deyiengs on Jul 17, 2012 15:23:51 GMT 3
I'm so much relieved that Mr. Njunguna Njunguna a.k.a Run baby Run, fled. I'm happy for Raila, not that people will start disbelieving the lies he (MM) published, but because he's now safe from hungry valtures like Ouru and Bill. I had a bad feeling that PNU headless G7 group were planning the worst on him. I hope we're all in the same page here. And then they were to blame it on Raila. So happy. What a smart move Njunguna.
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Post by nok on Jul 17, 2012 15:26:13 GMT 3
OO I am honestly surprised that you would find time to respond to this mob lynching of Miguna your buddy. It is not worth your while and for some that want to have their own imagination on a fleeing Miguna, it only help suit their fancy. Someone told me prior to the 2007 elections that the biggest danger of a Raila presidency to Kenyans was not Raila himself.....but the mobs that follow him. He called it a Mob Dictatorship where anyone disagreeing with Raila would meet the wrath of the mobs as opposed to from Raila and his government! The last couple of days have shown what the mobs can do...starting to the flack that Mutunga got at the suggestion of being a guest at the book launch to the time the book first appeared in the media! calling other jukwaaists like omwenga, Job , Adongo, phil,
nalinali, kaburwo, rr, reporta, genius, mrembo, einstein, Otisot et
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MOBS !!
Quite arrogant . Very distastefull. I guess you belong to Miguna's
league , the one of ... kiss my feet. Then follow him to Canada !
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Post by kaburwo on Jul 17, 2012 15:27:19 GMT 3
Now that shoulder, coming from Kamale who has never spared any good adjective for MM is telling. Telling because Kamale himself helped me develop objectivity towards MM (and his claim to legal excellence) when the whole of Jukwaa way literally "hissing at his feet". Kamale, are you smoking the Memoirs?
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Post by destiny on Jul 17, 2012 15:28:03 GMT 3
OO I am honestly surprised that you would find time to respond to this mob lynching of Miguna your buddy. It is not worth your while and for some that want to have their own imagination on a fleeing Miguna, it only help suit their fancy. Someone told me prior to the 2007 elections that the biggest danger of a Raila presidency to Kenyans was not Raila himself.....but the mobs that follow him. He called it a Mob Dictatorship where anyone disagreeing with Raila would meet the wrath of the mobs as opposed to from Raila and his government! The last couple of days have shown what the mobs can do...starting to the flack that Mutunga got at the suggestion of being a guest at the book launch to the time the book first appeared in the media! In this all important election year, Kamale's point could easily pass as the best unsolicited advice Raila will ever get. For me, this is by far quote of the YEAR!
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Post by cheshirecat on Jul 17, 2012 15:36:22 GMT 3
OO I am honestly surprised that you would find time to respond to this mob lynching of Miguna your buddy. It is not worth your while and for some that want to have their own imagination on a fleeing Miguna, it only help suit their fancy. Someone told me prior to the 2007 elections that the biggest danger of a Raila presidency to Kenyans was not Raila himself.....but the mobs that follow him. He called it a Mob Dictatorship where anyone disagreeing with Raila would meet the wrath of the mobs as opposed to from Raila and his government! The last couple of days have shown what the mobs can do...starting to the flack that Mutunga got at the suggestion of being a guest at the book launch to the time the book first appeared in the media! Do people walk around and think that if they shout, insult others and generally throw tantrums we are going to do what they want? Are they 2 years old?
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jul 17, 2012 15:38:56 GMT 3
OO I am honestly surprised that you would find time to respond to this mob lynching of Miguna your buddy. It is not worth your while and for some that want to have their own imagination on a fleeing Miguna, it only help suit their fancy. Someone told me prior to the 2007 elections that the biggest danger of a Raila presidency to Kenyans was not Raila himself.....but the mobs that follow him. He called it a Mob Dictatorship where anyone disagreeing with Raila would meet the wrath of the mobs as opposed to from Raila and his government! The last couple of days have shown what the mobs can do...starting to the flack that Mutunga got at the suggestion of being a guest at the book launch to the time the book first appeared in the media! Kamale, Spot on. I was reading through all these and I was begining to entertain exactly the same thought.
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