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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 17, 2012 17:49:35 GMT 3
This thread is fantastic and very entertaining. The book has now been completely forgotten, and we now have Jukwaaists trading might blows about a vacation. But how about we have this for just 2 or 3 days and then someone can get back to reading the book and reviewing it for us.
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Post by reporter911 on Jul 17, 2012 17:49:43 GMT 3
Jukwaaist,Some of this analysis makes Jukwaa to be go from a five star hotel to a motel. Miguna Miguna Closed, shelved case in Canada.the folks who are claiming they can reopen, it does not matter if they person(victim) is a resident right now, you need fresh evidence, with not the same charges, so what will charges be molestation. Common now.... Double Jeopardy. Keeping in mind, it is State Vs Miguna, so you expect the state to use tax payers money, for someone like Miguna Miguna who pays Taxes, went to school in Canada, and he is former PM Advisor. Good luck convincing that Prosecutor due political leveling objectives. Sarah Part 1, 2, 3 Rebuttals on Nation newspaperIt will backfire, worse strategy ever, he is not running for presidency, discrediting him, wont help. Kamale MOBS ;D ;D quote of the year. Canada does not care if one pays tax and yet turns out to be a criminal! they will face the law of the land.. rumour has it there other women out there claiming having been raped by Miguna.. those are fresh cases if indeed the rumours are true.. let us wait and see.. they are still just rumours.. rape is rape no if and buts it is a criminal offense.. reading on some rapists offenders backgrounds studies show that they are repeat offenders, they just don't do it once or twice!! the truth will prevail..
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Post by Mobimba on Jul 17, 2012 17:50:31 GMT 3
“Do you think I will stay in the same country and challenge a prime minister of an African country? Do you think by this time I would still be walking free? Wouldn’t they have locked me up on any flimsy [charge]? I am clean. I mean he has not said that what I said was false. He has not denied any of the allegations. Why can’t he stand and deny them,” said Miguna. Here, Miguna confirms he has FLED. OO, Please stop spreading lies of vacation in Canada. I think it's time we start questioning your integrity. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000062065&pageNo=1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 18:08:03 GMT 3
horthmy sentiments exactly. man these people are vicious. I know for a fact that Miguna does come to Canada every summer. He has two children who were born here and who live here most of the year with their mother. He was here last summer, the one before that and so on. I thought that I was fighting Mount Kenya Mafia only to find that the ODM peeps like mrembo of Kisumu city, roughrider, Caroli and others are just as vicious. All this because a man wrote a book about your king that you don't like? Phil, just chill, you will be in power in less than a year. In fact I will vote for Raila. Then you'll all show us whose turn it is to eat. You'll be looking at people like us as cockroaches like Bashir of Sudan likes insulting Sudanes blacks. Ida will be recalling ferries and kicking folks off because the queen is at hand. Caroli will eat till he explodes all over us because after all who says Luos can't get rich. You people are so nasty and unprincipled that you're making me sympathize with people I don't even like. Kathure; With great restraint and a lot of respect, for the second time, I urge you to leave me alone. We recognize you as moderator. I am an ordinary Kenyan and Jukwaaist expressing my views on affairs which are interesting to me. I bet the same can be said of Kisumu’s Mrembo. On Jukwaa, we post from different places across Kenya and the world. Not as a mob. In fact, YOU informed us of two things about Miguna on these very pages: 1) He is a liar and you challenged Oloo on the same and 2) That Miguna corners women at his law office in Canada with the words ‘come, baby come’. So are you part of the ‘mob’? Do you want me to refresh your memory with the relevant threads? As for Caroli, I only heard that he intends to sue Miguna in court. This seems like a normal thing to do when aggrieved. Have you heard anything else? roughriderBeing a moderator doesn't preclude me from having and voicing opinions. Otherwise I would never have accepted that gagging because that is what it would amount to. Thank the lord I can come to your house I'm not a muhindi. Or are wameru banned too except maybe Imanyara? Ati an ordinary kenyan..." LOL! You must think we are all fools! Yes yes of cause. You all are just ordinary Kenyans working only for the advancement of the Kenyan people as a whole. Not a bunch of opportunists waiting in the wings for "our turn to eat". I'm convinced of that black brother. Now, as far as Miguna and his misogyny goes, I think that every woman in Kenya knows that he did exactly what most of you men do to women all the time. Don't get me going on that one. People abusing their wives to the point of hospitalization and insanity, people sleeping with people's wives, people using their power to sleep with children, people abandoning their children. And I could go on and on and on. Remember how you "ordinary" jukwaaist riped into Tessy and Mudavadi, hitting below the belt talking of an Indian Kid? At least Tessy is not a hypocrite. She had her baby and brought it home. How about the rest of you? How many prostitutes have "ordinary" male jukwaaist exploited? If ODM thinks that they are going to use the rape trial against Miguna without talking about how endemic it is even within their own ranks then I for one will stay principled and call out the pretense. And yes you people are acting as a mob. If you could challenge Miguna on his bullshit and also challege people like Caroli, Ishakia and the others around Raila even Ida then I could respect you people. Other than that as far as I can see you all are waiting to eat period
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Post by stibin on Jul 17, 2012 18:08:33 GMT 3
Sad day for me. I might not like all the things Miguna does particularly when he’s rubbed the wrong way but I highly regard him a steadfast fighter for justice and good governance. He’s no doubt very intelligent, fearless and he expresses himself strongly and with a lot of passion on matters he believes in.
Poor Kenyans! Why do we lynch brave men who tell us the truth? And really it isn’t about RAO alone as we now know some brave warriors can turn into lyrical sycophants and much more.
In the meantime let me wait and see how Raila will transform the country after he clinches presidency with henry kosgei being running mate, fred ngumo finance minister, ole ntimama internal security……
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Post by morimax on Jul 17, 2012 18:21:11 GMT 3
Onyango Oloo,
do not insult the intelligence of your readers.
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Post by phil on Jul 17, 2012 18:24:45 GMT 3
Sad day for me. I might not like all the things Miguna does particularly when he’s rubbed the wrong way but I highly regard him a steadfast fighter for justice and good governance. He’s no doubt very intelligent, fearless and he expresses himself strongly and with a lot of passion on matters he believes in. Poor Kenyans! Why do we lynch brave men who tell us the truth? And really it isn’t about RAO alone as we now know some brave warriors can turn into lyrical sycophants and much more. In the meantime let me wait and see how Raila will transform the country after he clinches presidency with henry kosgei being running mate, fred ngumo finance minister, ole ntimama internal security…… Stibin,Your prediction of a future ODM cabinet is a cheapshot and betrayal of your poor grasp of constitutional demands on future Cabinet Secretaries from any political party. Sometimes, when you have nothing to say on the thread topic it's better not to comment.
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Post by stibin on Jul 17, 2012 18:45:38 GMT 3
Sad day for me. I might not like all the things Miguna does particularly when he’s rubbed the wrong way but I highly regard him a steadfast fighter for justice and good governance. He’s no doubt very intelligent, fearless and he expresses himself strongly and with a lot of passion on matters he believes in. Poor Kenyans! Why do we lynch brave men who tell us the truth? And really it isn’t about RAO alone as we now know some brave warriors can turn into lyrical sycophants and much more. In the meantime let me wait and see how Raila will transform the country after he clinches presidency with henry kosgei being running mate, fred ngumo finance minister, ole ntimama internal security…… Stibin,Your prediction of a future ODM cabinet is a cheapshot and betrayal of your poor grasp of constitutional demands on future Cabinet Secretaries from any political party. Sometimes, when you have nothing to say on the thread topic it's better not to comment. Phil, I've no doubt you know that was a polite way of saying that it is very difficult for ODM to sell itself as a party of reform but you're free to continue hiding your head in the sad. And quite a number of people have spewed a lot of nonsense in this thread about miguna yet I've not heard you reprimand them as strongly. why double standards?
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Post by okhunyanye on Jul 17, 2012 19:04:41 GMT 3
Kathure; YOU informed us of two things about Miguna on these very pages: 1) He is a liar and you challenged Oloo on the same and 2) That Miguna corners women at his law office in Canada with the words ‘come, baby come’. So are you part of the ‘mob’? Do you want me to refresh your memory with the relevant threads? RR,Miguna is coming to a city near us in Canada. And so like a bendera we have to change our positions simply because we might bump into him once he gets here. That is what is conveniently called, in some circles, 'not being part of a mob.'
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Post by mzee on Jul 17, 2012 19:16:57 GMT 3
I was at Miguna's house all afternoon yesterday. He was busy doing interviews with the local and international media while at the same time supervising the shipping out of dozens of books in crazy demand at bookstores like Bookstop and Prestige. To all, he made no secret of the fact that he was traveling out of the country to Canada for a month- taking his family on holiday to their second home, Canada. He told me about this trip about a month ago. Some of you may not believe this, but there are folks who actually book their flights in advance before rushing to a busy international airport with their family in tow. Given the pressures he has been through while composing his book, I personally think this vacation was long overdue. That is one of the first things I told Adongo Ogony when I went to welcome him hours upon Adongo's arrival from Canada. He left via the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport which is staffed, by among others police officers, members of Kajwang's immigration ministry, Gichangi's NSIS and other state institutions. Why did they NOT arrest him if he was in fact a fleeing fugitive? I am pinning all these anti-Miguna tirades as announcements to exhibit the depth to which some of us have sunk in our quest to kick Miguna to the kerb. Miguna is not the coward some of you portray him to be. Look for him in Nairobi in about a month and I hope that the cops will be on hand to arrest him for writing a book that some of you disagree with. If some of you had your way, I am sure some of you would bay for his blood as he is taken to Uhuru Park at midday to be hung, drawn, quartered and roasted as nyama choma. Onyango Oloo Nairobi Onyango Oloo,Miguna has now confirmed that he has(cowardly) fled the country because he thinks he will be thrown in jail under false charges. Let the man fight his own fights. He will make you look bad by constantly contradicting you even though you are trying to defend him. Miguna cares only about Miguna.
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Post by b6k on Jul 17, 2012 19:37:32 GMT 3
Stibin,Your prediction of a future ODM cabinet is a cheapshot and betrayal of your poor grasp of constitutional demands on future Cabinet Secretaries from any political party. Sometimes, when you have nothing to say on the thread topic it's better not to comment. Phil, I've no doubt you know that was a polite way of saying that it is very difficult for ODM to sell itself as a party of reform but you're free to continue hiding your head in the sad. And quite a number of people have spewed a lot of nonsense in this thread about miguna yet I've not heard you reprimand them as strongly. why double standards? Stibin, sadly Phil is right at least as far as the constitution only allows for technocrats, & not the shady politicians from all parties we currently endure, to serve in cabinet posts. But for his sake let me post this video clip that shows just why ODM has been a BIG lie since 2007. Can you imagine Ole Ntimama the warmonger as Minister for Internal Security? Miguna may be a loud mouth, narcissistic lout, but at least he has finally punctured the myth of ODM as the party that represents change for KE. As Elderkin said, someday we will thank him in a big way.
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Post by reporter911 on Jul 17, 2012 19:40:29 GMT 3
Kathure; With great restraint and a lot of respect, for the second time, I urge you to leave me alone. We recognize you as moderator. I am an ordinary Kenyan and Jukwaaist expressing my views on affairs which are interesting to me. I bet the same can be said of Kisumu’s Mrembo. On Jukwaa, we post from different places across Kenya and the world. Not as a mob. In fact, YOU informed us of two things about Miguna on these very pages: 1) He is a liar and you challenged Oloo on the same and 2) That Miguna corners women at his law office in Canada with the words ‘come, baby come’. So are you part of the ‘mob’? Do you want me to refresh your memory with the relevant threads? As for Caroli, I only heard that he intends to sue Miguna in court. This seems like a normal thing to do when aggrieved. Have you heard anything else? roughriderBeing a moderator doesn't preclude me from having and voicing opinions. Otherwise I would never have accepted that gagging because that is what it would amount to. Thank the lord I can come to your house I'm not a muhindi. Or are wameru banned too except maybe Imanyara? Ati an ordinary kenyan..." LOL! You must think we are all fools! Yes yes of cause. You all are just ordinary Kenyans working only for the advancement of the Kenyan people as a whole. Not a bunch of opportunists waiting in the wings for "our turn to eat". I'm convinced of that black brother. Now, as far as Miguna and his misogyny goes, I think that every woman in Kenya knows that he did exactly what most of you men do to women all the time. Don't get me going on that one. People abusing their wives to the point of hospitalization and insanity, people sleeping with people's wives, people using their power to sleep with children, people abandoning their children. And I could go on and on and on. Remember how you "ordinary" jukwaaist riped into Tessy and Mudavadi, hitting below the belt talking of an Indian Kid? At least Tessy is not a hypocrite. She had her baby and brought it home. How about the rest of you? How many prostitutes have "ordinary" male jukwaaist exploited? If ODM thinks that they are going to use the rape trial against Miguna without talking about how endemic it is even within their own ranks then I for one will stay principled and call out the pretense. And yes you people are acting as a mob. If you could challenge Miguna on his bullshit and also challege people like Caroli, Ishakia and the others around Raila even Ida then I could respect you people. Other than that as far as I can see you all are waiting to eat period This is confusing? the talk about rape can you elaborate? this topic is about Miguna's book! Miguna's character! Miguna's Morals! since he is the one who is questioning others including withholding information about the PEV? I'm not sure where everyone else comes in especially calling us "MOB" just because some of us are calling on Miguna to proof his allegations? I believe one can start other threads in regards to all the other things you have mentioned in your post.. My question remains what have all those other issues you have mentioned here have in relevance to Miguna's allegations in his book? just curious.. Miguna=book= allegations= NO PROOF... SEMA!! BY THE WAY I FIND IT UNACCEPTABLE WHEN SOMEONE PLACES A MOB LABEL ON ME..
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Post by justfacts on Jul 17, 2012 19:47:53 GMT 3
MM is seriously killing his credibility with his rebuttal of Sarah. Not that he had much to begin with. Now he just added racist to the words one can use to describe him . After penning a book that can only be summarized as innuendo he flees when called to account. Its not enough saying so and so is corrupt....in any society you need tangible evidence to make such allegations. A man who sued the queen should know this. He trivializes weighty matters like PEV in other words saying damn the IDP's. If ODM crew would only kiss his feet they can all go to hell.... Quest for justice indeed. But all this leads to one question. How did RAO end up having such a character next to him? Hata yeye alitupa mbao ..... Now he is left clearing his eyes from MM's dust storm.
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Post by reporter911 on Jul 17, 2012 19:49:40 GMT 3
Phil, I've no doubt you know that was a polite way of saying that it is very difficult for ODM to sell itself as a party of reform but you're free to continue hiding your head in the sad. And quite a number of people have spewed a lot of nonsense in this thread about miguna yet I've not heard you reprimand them as strongly. why double standards? Stibin, sadly Phil is right at least as far as the constitution only allows for technocrats, & not the shady politicians from all parties we currently endure, to serve in cabinet posts. But for his sake let me post this video clip that shows just why ODM has been a BIG lie since 2007. Can you imagine Ole Ntimama the warmonger as Minister for Internal Security? Miguna may be a loud mouth, narcissistic lout, but at least he has finally punctured the myth of ODM as the party that represents change for KE. As Elderkin said, someday we will thank him in a big way. Yup! as Rumor has it part of his book was filled in with those in PNU that keep singing RAIRA will never be president of Kenya. rumor also has it some big $$$$$$$$ exchanged hands hey just rumors who knows ... But going back to party for change.. I guess one can't compare it to PNU.. with a presidential candidate accused of PEV or the new mushroom parties that have sprung all over the place that rumor has it being financed by yours truly the same PNU heavy weight.. JIRONGO HAD IT RIGHT! runner-ups Uhuru Mudavadi -one to running as President and Vice president.. oops wait a minute where did that leave Ruto? OOOPs !!!pleaz says Kalonzo Musyoka kati kati I'm still here... I Love Kenyans they are so intelligent that they can see through all these shenanigans.. Change has already come to Kenya.. we will never turn back to the dark ages.. even when Miguna Miguna pens out his romance novel ;D
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Post by tnk on Jul 17, 2012 20:03:54 GMT 3
OO....i have never known you are so intolerant! It is not only you Onyango Oloo and Miguna who fought for Kenya's liberation. I was a University student in 1997 and we went to Saba Saba rally in Kamukunji. We were beaten so bad by police. I walked from Kamukunji to KU via mathare,mwigi-kasarani, Githurai. In the same time period, we commandeered a lorry in Thika rd. to take us to Karura because we wanted to support Prof Maathai in "taking back Karura". When i graduated, i was employed by TSC but a prominent ex-KANU man campaigned for my sacking. One day, the headmaster called me and told me" .....i don't want problems in this school". The same day, KANU youth wingers accosted me on my way home from school. The next few days, i received a letter from TSC terminating my employment "because you participated in politics". I secured employment in a private school in Eldy, but little did i know that one of the shareholders is a KANU politician. I did not live to teach my first Maths lesson. So, by you calling people idle mouths or any other adjective, do you mean that they never fought for Kenya's second liberation?? How are we suppose to document how we contributed to justice and democracy in Kenya? by sending you photos or prison files? AND by the way, not all of us were cowards enough to run to exile, and if we wanted to, we didn't have connections at US or UK or Canadian embassies. We chose to fight here rather than flee.... On the issue of Miguna, anyone who has read this book of peeling masks knows that 80% if not all is based on lies, revenge and anger..... Actually, Miguna reminds me of Esther Arunga (clever, confused, cowardly,"vengeant" and cheap) and then there are those of us who were there at the 87 riots, who managed to smuggle and /or facilitate the safe exit of buke from campus that night. shaw had already just shot and killed one student up at hall IV (if anyone remembers, we were in hall IV - with water hoses, dousing the tear gas canisters faster than they could be lobed aka air force), and word spread that they were planning to kill buke. (have more details on this too - just not worth the effort) there are a lot of these people around. and i agree that its time for those jailed to appreciate that we have all moved on. we appreciate that they bear more scars and wounds, but just like some of the freedom fighters were in the bushes fighting with machetes and guns, there were others fighting with pens and speech. just as there were collaborators and traitors. all of these combined form the freedom struggles and one cannot just keep harping on any one group. that does get really old
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Post by okhunyanye on Jul 17, 2012 20:04:50 GMT 3
Fled from Moi to Canada when others stayed behind to fight for freedom in Kenya. While in Canada, his much touted 'fight for Kenya's liberation' credentials were limited to blogging. Let him go back to the 'fight for Kenyas liberation' from an armchair in a distant land. All this while, the real liberators of Kenya, those who dont flee at the slightest mention of court or jail will continue working towards ending impunity in Kenya on the ground. They will continue fighting Miguna's new masters. Yes, them who own print medias such as the Daily Nation and TV stations such as K24. As RR stated, its about time we stopped wasting time with Miguna. Let's follow the leash to the ...'s new owners. “Do you think I will stay in the same country and challenge a prime minister of an African country? Do you think by this time I would still be walking free? Wouldn’t they have locked me up on any flimsy [charge]? I am clean. I mean he has not said that what I said was false. He has not denied any of the allegations. Why can’t he stand and deny them,” said Miguna. Here, Miguna confirms he has FLED. OO, Please stop spreading lies of vacation in Canada. I think it's time we start questioning your integrity. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000062065&pageNo=1
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Post by mangai on Jul 17, 2012 20:42:01 GMT 3
Miguna 'fleeing' the country is good for Raila and ODM. This saga was taking a dangerous trend where Raila's enemies could have plotted anything nasty against MM with the expectation, and rightly so, that all fingers could have pointed to Raila and Co.
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Post by tnk on Jul 17, 2012 20:46:06 GMT 3
Just when an in-law is set to swear a damning affidavit on this son of a gun! Pepo Mbaya, Chidwe !mrembo - more details please btw phew - what happened, i turned for a second and there are 400 new posts - jeez anyway the one thing am glad about is that miguna has taken his family away from what is a tsunami ahead. i concur with otishotish that he needs to shield at least his family from whats coming ahead. whether his travel is coincidence or not is a matter of conjecture. on this i think oloo has been bamboozled. in one of miguna's interviews he clearly states that he plans, way ahead, nothing is coincidental, he is way too smart for everybody, each of his actions are based on pre-planning etc etc. and that is in his own words. so did he anticipate a severe backlash? was he prepared for the backlash? if the answer is certainly, then there you have it. am sure miguna will be back in the country, a little more cautious, but he will be back. the problem here is that for sure within moments of his jetting back, he will have to face those law suits, the DPP, plus the likes of sarah elderkin. and later on, the greatest political fight ever. already the people of his constituency have written an eulogy so he may need to reinvent himself in another constituency what a sizzling hot week . tssssss.......
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 20:52:02 GMT 3
Just when an in-law is set to swear a damning affidavit on this son of a gun! Pepo Mbaya, Chidwe !mrembo - more details please btw phew - what happened, i turned for a second and there are 400 new posts - jeez anyway the one thing am glad about is that miguna has taken his family away from what is a tsunami ahead. i concur with otishotish that he needs to shield at least his family from whats coming ahead. whether his travel is coincidence or not is a matter of conjecture. on this i think oloo has been bamboozled. in one of miguna's interviews he clearly states that he plans, way ahead, nothing is coincidental, he is way too smart for everybody, each of his actions are based on pre-planning etc etc. and that is in his own words. so did he anticipate a severe backlash? was he prepared for the backlash? if the answer is certainly, then there you have it. am sure miguna will be back in the country, a little more cautious, but he will be back. the problem here is that for sure within moments of his jetting back, he will have to face those law suits, the DPP, plus the likes of sarah elderkin. and later on, the greatest political fight ever. already the people of his constituency have written an eulogy so he may need to reinvent himself in another constituency what a sizzling hot week . tssssss....... tnkBy the above you're confirming that anybody from the Luo community (or otherwise lol!) who dares criticize the powerful in that community will be eliminated. Now, you tell me what the difference between those people and the MKM that I have been so against is? I want to know please mercy!
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Post by kaburwo on Jul 17, 2012 20:53:49 GMT 3
The never went to proper schools!
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Post by job on Jul 17, 2012 21:06:56 GMT 3
The never went to proper schools! I think Miguna is talking too much...(as he heads to Canada) Miguna: "For a libel suit to be successful, you must first issue notice. Notice must be served personally on the one you are suing"...
You must state what it is that is false... You must state the damage you've suffered... You must state what you want the person to do before you go to court...
So, you could ask for a retraction, you could ask for an apology, you could ask for a correction...
You're asked for all manner of things before you're allowed to sue.
You don't just jump and go to court.
That suit if it is a suit - is dead on arrival! dead on arrival...Caroli must be a joker!
This bitter rivalry and personnel battle between this two egotistic lawyers is the sub-text of this entire fiasco. According to Miguna, Raila took sides with Caroli - therefore he must bear his equal share of wrath. Reallyyyyy!!!!!! If this was really a QUEST FOR JUSTICE - Miguna would handily offer evidence of Raila's involvement in planning PEV and corruption. Otherwise he is minting money from gullible Kenyans who are already starting to see through the veil and theatrics!!!! See how this young journalist politely begs him to volunteer any information to the relevant authorities...Miguna is clearly wasting people's time while cherishing the limelight and photo-op...Talk about grandeur!
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Post by tnk on Jul 17, 2012 21:35:01 GMT 3
tnkBy the above you're confirming that anybody from the Luo community (or otherwise lol!) who dares criticize the powerful in that community will be eliminated. Now, you tell me what the difference between those people and the MKM that I have been so against is? I want to know please mercy! kathure my choice of word is not eliminated which has a physical threat connotation. what i do know is that politically he is finished aka totally unpopular i've said before, that miguna is a great guy to debate your cause, because he stays focused on the theme on hand, i.e basically a ruthlessly efficient political gun for hire. but his politics (or PR if you will) sucks. i would be more interested in interrogating someone in those masses as to why they have opted to reject miguna and hear their answer before calling them frenzied mobs. has anyone actually asked them why they are against miguna? i also need to add, that just as miguna has freedom to express his opinion, so do the villagers, and a lot more of them are expressing opinion that doesn't agree with miguna. thats their right, am not from that constituency.
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Post by mzee on Jul 17, 2012 21:35:53 GMT 3
Job, Miguna is in alot of trouble. Now he wants Caroli to ask him to retract what he said. Why should Caroli do that and how does that help the damage Miguna has caused him.
I think that the smart Caroli outmaneuvered Miguna in their war to control the PM´s office. So Miguna decided to tell all manner of lies with a hope that no one will sue him. And even if he were sued, he would be asked to retract and apologize. Nothing in the Kenyan law says that the court must ask people to retract their silly statements. Its all upon the person who is suing.
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Post by tnk on Jul 17, 2012 21:51:34 GMT 3
Job, Miguna is in alot of trouble. Now he wants Caroli to ask him to retract what he said. Why should Caroli do that and how does that help the damage Miguna has caused him. I think that the smart Caroli outmaneuvered Miguna in their war to control the PM´s office. So Miguna decided to tell all manner of lies with a hope that no one will sue him. And even if he were sued, he would be asked to retract and apologize. Nothing in the Kenyan law says that the court must ask people to retract their silly statements. Its all upon the person who is suing. quite correct mzee this appears to be a turf war that caroli and isahakia won hands down so to speak, whereas miguna somehow expected the PM to side with him. now caroli is moving in for "coup de grace" and miguna is attempting to (re)define the rules of engagement which as far as i know, there are no rules other than whoever plays best the instruments of law will win this one. lets see how that pans out. this moves from bruising of the egos, to a brush with the law, infinitely more lethal. the biggest mine in there is that caroli is going for both "criminal and civil" proceedings. that can be quite a hit.
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Post by raiswakesho on Jul 17, 2012 21:58:44 GMT 3
" How do you expect a white woman to respect a black man?"... I think Miguna owes Sarah an apology.
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