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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 18:27:31 GMT 3
while on the happenings at the Transport Ministry also sinister occurrences are going in at the ICT Ministry. We all know Telecommunications is a security infrastructure. You cannot just let it die and no nation have ever done that so whay are the two mad men playing at as this is high stake power money games. ooops PORK and PM I mean? IN SUMMARY The President’s intervention, which amounts to political meddling in the work of an independent state organ, has for the second time in as many years stopped the industry regulator, the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK), from lowering the Mobile Termination Rate (MTR). MTR is the price that operators pay each other for calls terminating in their networks from outside and ultimately determines call costs. Mr Kibaki, who has been acting on behalf of Safaricom and Telkom Kenya, issued the directive in a letter to Information Permanent Secretary Bitange Ndemo, stating that there should be no change in the MTR until a fresh study of the same is carried out. The above is sweet musik to SafCom who are minting billions and stiffling growth of small players like AirTel, Yu etc. plus of course the mwananchi who has to pay up! Imagine AirTel climbed up from shs 1 a minute call to shs 3 because of MTR status quo being maintained! Prime Minister Raila Odinga, jumped into the CCK’s regulatory mandate with a similar directive on behalf of yet another big business – Royal Media Services. Mr Odinga wrote to the CCK director-general asking him to withdraw the notice he had published of intention to revoke frequencies that the media house is accused of acquiring irregularly. www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kibaki+Raila+meddling+stalls+CCK+actions+/-/539546/1489216/-/bay1qg/-/index.htmlSo as most Kenyans have pointed out.. the coalition government was a marriage made in Hell! each to their own while Members of parliament are bribed, threatened to pass bills which are not protecting wanaichi and at the same time fill their pockets with corruptly acquired $$$$.. I guess Wanaichi must wake up come 2013... if indeed they want to save the country from a path of no return.. shshhh phil should not hear you put RAO in same basket as PORK. only PORK as CiC is responsible and truly the buck stops at PORK job will come out with a line that the military can hoard frequencies as a matter of state security and Royal Media Services are our own. it is PNU who are eating mdomo wazi while odm are blowing whistles and saving Kenyans loses
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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 18:22:36 GMT 3
1st red highlight MM is not a ‘leader’ Kenyan style! Otherwise he would be splashing money to the downtrodden or promising them heaven. He certainly is a slave driver if given an opportunity to lord over others. He definitely is a workaholic and hence would make an excellent behind scene strategist and/or tactician. But leading people no, No, NO, nO, no. 2nd and 3rd red light MM appears to have made up his mind to concentrate on RAO. At UoN the 'jilted lover' adage sunk in properly hence the vindictiveness. MMs single minded mission now is to make sure through crook and by crook that RAO does not become PORK. All those other pretenders to the throne G7, etc will gladly bankroll his County tours and it is no crime. It is RAO's sycophants who will do more harm to their deity by reacting as they did in Kisumu and Mombasa, especially. Of course a cold calculating G7, etc supporter can harm MM and like ‘programmed robots’ all of us will see RAO's hand! After all MM is inflicting blows to RAO and not G7, etc. Hence any harm befalling MM is RAO’s hand work and hence the futility of the good Prof (ODM Secretary General) and BM (ODM’s Director of misInformation) proclamations as it is R911, rr and the multitudes celebrations that will point real fingers at the beneficiaries of MMs outage! Do not be surprised if MM starts singing praises to Mo1 and the current PORK. As many Kenyans saw happening with the staged show in Mombasa.. G7 are looking to nail Raila desperately and if any harm were to come to Miguna as you mentioned above, they expect Kenyans to think, since Miguna vendetta has been specifically pointed at Raila, then the chess game plays out that he must be the one vying for his demise.. G7 or Miguna's rumored handlers are foolish enough to think that they can get away with such actions, but it is Miguna who would have made himself and easy target for them to act.. not realizing that the chess game is up and that Kenyans can see through the smoke screen Breaking News:Its now confirmed that MM will attend Ramogi night AKA State function tonight at carnival. And he is a teetotler so will see how he ohangla's! have to also to go there nijionee. first get the dress code instructions which can be downloaded on mobile phone, yawaaah
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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 17:46:24 GMT 3
while on the happenings at the Transport Ministry also sinister occurrences are going in at the ICT Ministry. We all know Telecommunications is a security infrastructure. You cannot just let it die and no nation have ever done that so whay are the two mad men playing at as this is high stake power money games. ooops PORK and PM I mean? IN SUMMARY The President’s intervention, which amounts to political meddling in the work of an independent state organ, has for the second time in as many years stopped the industry regulator, the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK), from lowering the Mobile Termination Rate (MTR). MTR is the price that operators pay each other for calls terminating in their networks from outside and ultimately determines call costs. Mr Kibaki, who has been acting on behalf of Safaricom and Telkom Kenya, issued the directive in a letter to Information Permanent Secretary Bitange Ndemo, stating that there should be no change in the MTR until a fresh study of the same is carried out. The above is sweet musik to SafCom who are minting billions and stiffling growth of small players like AirTel, Yu etc. plus of course the mwananchi who has to pay up! Imagine AirTel climbed up from shs 1 a minute call to shs 3 because of MTR status quo being maintained! Prime Minister Raila Odinga, jumped into the CCK’s regulatory mandate with a similar directive on behalf of yet another big business – Royal Media Services. Mr Odinga wrote to the CCK director-general asking him to withdraw the notice he had published of intention to revoke frequencies that the media house is accused of acquiring irregularly. www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kibaki+Raila+meddling+stalls+CCK+actions+/-/539546/1489216/-/bay1qg/-/index.html
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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 17:31:11 GMT 3
China is described as the evolving powerhouse of the future. what we forget to add is that, it's also a kleptocracy of a scale perhaps never seen before in recent history (we are soon joining that league). As we deal with useless distractions on a daily basis, the mboys ie the looting brigade are busy at work having found in the chinese more than a willing partner in crime. someone brought this clip to my attention and it left me seething with rage. where are the local leaders? why aren't they talking? where is kalonzo the VP? why is he quiet? what is going on here? who are these kenyan owners of fenxi mining company? BTW, jukwaa has gone eerily quiet, anyone still at home? my mole tells me that good KM he who is current vice PORK has already sold soul and steak to the Chikas. he is soliciting that a railway be built from Kitui to Lamu to transport the coal when it is brought to the surface. oooh poor lady/man. you ask such beautiful questions. but the men who have answers only know ugliness. deceit is their nature. let us sing 'God is watching us From a distance' before telling you close your eyes we pray and when you open you will be holding the holy book and they will be holding the title deeds to that barren land filled with coal underneath. they will be holding the tender. you wail who is behind fenxi? do you remember kasuku’s thread? www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corpo....yz/-/index.htmlMan behind Chinese firm in Sh3.4tr Mui coal mines Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=6228&page=13#ixzz258M8awjQ30% is Kenyan owned with the gentleman in the businessdaily as the front of among others clean and meek spotless KM the current vice PORK. madam Rainbow will dares raise her voice as she has obtained a degree to stand in the next election and if she does not graduate soon she will have togo for bigger sit...ooops got a twit from Jeff Koinangeþ@KoinangeJeff Wrapping up the week on THE BENCH at 8p, 'Mama Rainbow',Charity Ngilu, who's about to declare her Candidacy in the Race to State House!
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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 17:17:08 GMT 3
As Kimunya and Gichuki fight who's gonna eat the billions in kick-backs, Kenya risks being blacklisted by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and the International Air Transport Association (IATA) for valid reason - its publicly-played corruption makes it untrustworthy in terms of security. When that corruption is principally focused in Chinese companies...you're going nowhere. the guys you mention have a vision that does not go beyond their noses.
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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 17:10:23 GMT 3
Phil goes into damage control mode as things go pear shaped for ODM in Ndhiwa... Raila reaches out to poll losersBy ISAAC ONGIRI iongiri@ke.nationmedia.com and JUSTUS WANGA newsdesk@ke.nationmedia.com Posted Thursday, August 30 2012 at 22:00 “We cannot be coerced to support an unpopular candidate hand-picked against the will of the people,” Mr Kale stated. On Thursday Mr Alila confirmed he was working with the protesting candidates. “ We all support Mr Odinga’s quest for presidency. But today we are requesting him to allow the people of Ndhiwa to decide,” Mr Alila said. But ODM communications director Philip Etale said the meeting was meant to “discuss in-house issues”. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Raila+reaches+out+to+poll+losers+/-/1064/1491088/-/xx39re/-/index.html b6k, When Ndolo, --I have forgotten his name now, was imposed on Makadara, young party activists on the ground in Eastlands besieged Nyong'o and Okundi (not sure whether that was the guy then) to stop the chicanery. They did not and Sonko Mbuvi went home run.Perhaps they are taking homeland Nyanza for granted. The arrogant kenchic&chips Jaluos of Nairobi. Would be a mistake. Do you know the current TNA candidate? When hayati Saitoti was in the race in 2007 on PNU ticket the chap was on ODM ticket. Why did he switch over? RAO had a not so secret MoU with hayati Saitoti. It is a similar game that was played Ndolo in Makadara. When it appeared he was unstoppable on ODM ticket good RAO made an MoU with Narc-K presidential candidate. Poor Ndolo never knew what hit him. Madam Ngilu resuscitated him to mark time in one of the water boards in her Ministry. And in MM's Peeling Back the Mask its clearer Ndolo is not liked for also squeezing RAO's squeeze initially. And like in Mo1's script, of fuata nyayo, all the kings men before he becomes king have to be cut to size. Ndolo is still nostalgic but he better consult MM. I somehow agree with how you see the lakeside folks! Chips funga when it comes to RAO dealing them, except Tuju and MM recently! And our OO to is no Chips funga. And maybe you if you really belong. But do I say?
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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 16:56:09 GMT 3
This interview was a lot better. At least one could bear listening to him. 75% I would give him on performance! Pretty good improvement according to his standards seen so far. A little bit of 'arrogance' is still visible. More effort is required on that end. Meeguna needs to tone down even further. Avoid 'grandising' the 'I'. It destroys any potential connection with the listeners who could have sympathised with him! Meeguna needs to make himself more identifiable and in syncwith his listeners, who can be supporters already committed to the various political/ethnical following or ideology, if you may call it. Meeguna needs to make himself 'approachable' and 'touchable' to his listners. His aggressive demeanour has been the biggest 'put-off', which must be scary to many. Belittling all others whom he perceives as 'non-educated', certainly 'dis-endears' himself from his listeners. He needs to bring himself down from his ivory tower; Yes, you may be right in your statements against corruption and we certainly do like such views and commitment. But you scare the hell out of me when I witness your arrogance and how you choose to go about things! What sort of a leader can Meeguna represent in himself? Arrogant, aggressive and an irrational bully? Or can he be someone who represents honesty, integrity, efficiency, tolerance, rationality, collectiveness, wisdom and 'good' leadership? Can he fit such necessary description of a people's leader? I say NO. At least not just yet. You see, Meeguna raises some very valid points; Take for example the level of corruption thriving in the PM's office; nepotism, taribalism, dictatorial tendencies and what have you. Thes are allegations which do exist and are true to some extent! Are these the qualities of a leader we desire for our good nation? I would certainly say NO to that as well. But what are the options suitable for the people to pursue henceforth? And what about those other guys? The PNU, G7, TNA, GDU, FSX, TFG, etc, etc. What about them? Yes, you mentioned here and there about them, but you certainly did not pursue them with equal vigour as you have on Raeella. Is that being balanced? And if not, why and why notor how are we supposed to fill in the blanks?I know…you "don't want anyone to "love you" or to tell you anything becuase you are "not a conman" and perhaps even 'mighty'. But if you truly want to be seen to be a people's champion, it is inevitable that you must submit yourself to the 'will of the peopl'e! 1st red highlight MM is not a ‘leader’ Kenyan style! Otherwise he would be splashing money to the downtrodden or promising them heaven. He certainly is a slave driver if given an opportunity to lord over others. He definitely is a workaholic and hence would make an excellent behind scene strategist and/or tactician. But leading people no, No, NO, nO, no. 2nd and 3rd red light MM appears to have made up his mind to concentrate on RAO. At UoN the 'jilted lover' adage sunk in properly hence the vindictiveness. MMs single minded mission now is to make sure through crook and by crook that RAO does not become PORK. All those other pretenders to the throne G7, etc will gladly bankroll his County tours and it is no crime. It is RAO's sycophants who will do more harm to their deity by reacting as they did in Kisumu and Mombasa, especially. Of course a cold calculating G7, etc supporter can harm MM and like ‘programmed robots’ all of us will see RAO's hand! After all MM is inflicting blows to RAO and not G7, etc. Hence any harm befalling MM is RAO’s hand work and hence the futility of the good Prof (ODM Secretary General) and BM (ODM’s Director of misInformation) proclamations as it is R911, rr and the multitudes celebrations that will point real fingers at the beneficiaries of MMs outage! Do not be surprised if MM starts singing praises to Mo1 and the current PORK.
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Post by podp on Aug 31, 2012 16:17:49 GMT 3
I have heard the crap theory that Miguna, with the help of unnamed parties, has been organising the attacks against himself. This is truly frightening. It is not Orwellian, it is Goebellian, where you take the Jew to the gas chamber, and then blame him for it. The violence against Miguna might be a pointer that we should perhaps pay more attention to the things he has been saying.[/b][/color]" www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1490840/-/lmqifaz/-/index.html[/quote]If someone invites you to their home.. in good faith and then you turn around and start abusing them in their own home, call them names, insult them? what does one expect the home owner to do? let the abuser sit in their home and continue abusing them or THROW THEM OUT? My point being, on top of throwing abuses at the PM, Miguna insulted people in Nakuru, Kisumu and Mombasa.. I guess they didn't take it lightly and as Kenyans reacted.. Tolerance cuts both ways.. it can't be one sided..!![/quote] b6k, R911, stibin, emali, rr et al, I need volunteers for a test run with a recently developed program and this debate can offer nice data. Care to read on? Why and when (e.g., cognitive sophistication and dislike of a target group like say MM groupies) does education enhances political tolerance? For this missive, political tolerance research treats any expression of support for concrete use of a civil liberty as an expression of tolerance. For measurement strategies and tests of theoretical ideas two implications arise first, and minimally, tolerance measures should ask about groups from both ends of the political spectrum; and second, it is essential to assess whether the person approves or disapproves of the target group. One can resolve Jukwaa’s competing claims by focusing on the qualities (e.g., reasoning processes, value commitments, etc.) that education is assumed to impart. One can suspect that the conceptual complexity and sophistication of the reasoning process itself is important, not years of education per se. A possible hypothesis, then, is that cognitive sophistication largely mediates the relationship between education and tolerance. A second major hypothesis is that education enhances tolerance even when the target group is disapproved or disliked. That is, higher levels of education are indeed the source of "sober second thought" about restricting the rights of those one opposes. It has been documented that an important dependence of expressed levels of tolerance on education exist. Reading the exchanges here we need to questioned whether education encourages more enlightened and tolerant views since I imagine for one to be able to log on one must be above average in ICT use implying post secondary education. It’s for this reason friends are doing a study on education-tolerance relationship that takes into account feelings of approval or disapproval of the target group whose rights are in question. The 3 political books recently availed, namely ‘Its Our Turn To Eat’; ‘Politics of Betrayal’ and ‘Peeling Back The Mask’ offer a good starting point. From discussions they will formulate two hypotheses concerning education and tolerance which will then be tested empirically. It may be stressed that increasing years of education are part of a learning process that enhance cognitive skills, cultural knowledge, and cognitive flexibility. It has been found elsewhere that support for abstract democratic norms was very high and unaffected by education. But support for concrete applications of those principles was much lower, with the highly educated exhibiting more consistency than the less well educated. They interpreted these patterns as demonstrating that education provides "greater acquaintance with the logical implications of the broad democratic principles". It has been demonstrated that highly educated were more likely to apply general norms of tolerance to groups they disliked and hence the tendency to call for psychosomatic check up of MM rather than dispute the concrete issues raised in his discourse. Tendency to sweep all that is not palatable as lies. This is contrary to what has been found i.e. large and consistent effects of education on knowledge and openness to new information. Questions presenting both sides of an issue and eschewing agree-disagree response formats are less likely to show education effects. If that has not been found out as true for Jukwaa supporters and opponents of MM it leads to the conclusion that, effects of education that vary as questions move from abstract principle to concrete issues have been read as showing that education imparts only a superficial degree of commitment to democratic values. The interpretation of the patterns displayed on MM can have one stressing that education does not increase tolerance so much as it enhances the ability of members of privileged groups to develop sophisticated defenses of their advantaged social status. From this perspective one can conclude that, the greater support for democratic values observed among the highly educated is a superficial advocacy of individual rights that provides a principled basis for rejecting group-based claims on society. Those among us who know MM, Githogo or Joe Hamisi by socially and professionally interacting with them, may testify that they exhibit some obnoxious habits. MM especially has been painted as a very disagreeable fellow not prone to keep friends by many. The tendency to dwell more on the individual is a ruse to put blinkers on the concrete issue that touch the common good which the books where they star in raises. It can be maintained that the relationship between education and tolerance is largely artificial. It has been concluded that political socialization of attitudes toward the specific civil liberty of free speech does occur during late childhood but that school children are taught the abstract principle only in slogan form. A harsher conclusion is that schools do little to teach or encourage the learning of democratic values and cannot teach democratic values because the school itself is not a democratic place. This is because of the need for order in the schools which, leads to the creation of an environment that fosters the learning of constraint, hierarchy, and inequality rather than values of freedom, equality, and tolerance. A principal reason why increasing years of education leads to respect for the rights of those one opposes is the greater cognitive sophistication more education imparts. In short, education changes cognitive style in ways that increase the likelihood of recognizing the importance of extending civil liberties to those we dislike. Applying that on Jukwaa its evident those who have interacted longest e.g. KK and R111 are easily able to live and let live while for any newcomers daring to assume the same demeanor s/he finds oneself kicked out of Jukwaa. First, we will develop a scale of political tolerance. MM was invited at PM’s home and as my mother’s people say proceeded to make a long call on the plate he was fed on instead of visiting the pit latrine for the long drop. Second, we test the cognitive sophistication hypothesis in a multiple regression framework, using a Civil Liberties scale that involves two separate groups spanning the political spectrum i.e. the three horse race criteria only this time one horse (PM) is feigning reforms while the second horse (G7) does not pretend it will bring reforms and we are yet to get the 3rd horseman. Third, we test for education and cognitive sophistication effects on tolerance of four separate target groups among those respondents holding explicitly negative attitudes toward the target group. Any volunteers for the third test and hence the start of this missive? (adopted from EDUCATION AND POLITICAL TOLERANCE TESTING THE EFFECTS OF COGNITIVE SOPHISTICATION AND TARGET GROUP by LAWRENCEB OBO AND FREDERICCK. LICARI)
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Post by podp on Aug 30, 2012 13:29:05 GMT 3
jobthanks for keeping your head above water. == Whereas the AG told the court Tuesday that his office is ready to comply with the ruling that revoked the appointments of the 47 commissioners, the Internal Security Permanent Secretary Mutea Iringo wants a petition seeking to compel him to comply with the order amended to allow him respond appropriately== Political advisors differ from regular civil servants in three crucial respects. First, since they are personally nominated by the minister, they are exempt from the usual civil service entry requirements (although sometimes they may previously have served as civil servants). Otherwise, there is rarely any qualification required for appointment as a political advisor. Ministers obviously look for people of competence, although it has to be said that considerations of political affiliation sometimes take precedence over this. Second, they stand outside the normal hierarchy of the ministry. Usually they are responsible only to the minister and take their instructions from him/her. Parliament, not courts, has power to supervise President www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000065042&pageNo=2Where the President has allegedly violated the law, he must personally face the music, yet the Constitution grants him absolute immunity from legal proceedings during his tenure. And if you don’t sue the President, how on Earth can a court grant orders against him yet he was not part of the suit? The court was wrong and acting in vain when it issued order against the AG and the PS Internal Security for an appointment the President made in his official capacity, citing sections of the Constitution that empower him to do so. The import of these immunity and impeachment provisions is that the President is held accountable politically and not judicially. Because of the special and political nature of his duties, subjecting his actions to review by the judicial branch might not consider the political dimensions of his decisions, and may lead to a deluge of politically–inspired lawsuits which could distract the President and compromise the efficacy of his office.
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Post by podp on Aug 30, 2012 10:47:34 GMT 3
The presence or absence of a police inspector general does not mean security organs start or stop working. You started this exchange by saying cops are receiving vague orders thus unable to stem riots. Their boss is headed to the ground tonight, perhaps he will issue strict and forthright orders, I dont know. He is the CiC. An 'interesting' letter in Nation today takes care of the above instead of focusing on my writing. Is it of any help for you? www.nation.co.ke/oped/Letters/-/440806/1489758/-/bj4x4u/-/index.htmlPerturbed by what was happening, a resident asked one of the officers why they were not acting decisively to stop the destruction and his response was disturbing. “The law does not allow us,” he said. Does it mean that the law envisaged a state of anarchy? I doubt it because the drafters of the Constitution were motivated by past ruthlessness by the police against harmless citizens.
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Post by podp on Aug 30, 2012 10:40:48 GMT 3
Maybe Kenya didn’t take any steps forward; it only reinvented the past www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1489824/-/ln6shpz/-/index.htmlThe common thing about all these incidents is that they are private solutions to national security problems. In Tana River the Pokomo and Orma felt the State had failed to intervene to resolve their dispute, so they resorted to their spears and machetes. In Garissa, Muslim youth became the local anti-terrorism police. In Nairobi, the churches took the private initiative to pay private security firms to protect them against possible terrorist attacks. And in Mombasa this week, youths did not wait for the State to apprehend Rogo’s killer. They took matters in their hands. ......................... This lack in faith in the State is contradictory, because Kenya was swept with optimism in 2010 after the new Constitution, the second most liberal in Africa after South Africa’s, was passed. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 4. Our leaders loot the economy before elections, they encourage violence and kill and burn homes they even then Kenyans fail to see this and keep blaming asians, whites, arabs and the chinese for everything. If it weren't for them we wouldn't have such a powerful economy. .............................. Socially, Kenyans are yet to fully embrace the spirit of the new constitution. Legally, the courts have been waking up to the new reality but institutionally you need time to draw and set up systems, resource them so that they can function. This needs one lead architect. And that is where we haven't made any steps ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, What we needed more than a new constitution was a new way of thinking and change of culture. No amount of laws can change a country's destiny, it takes the people to realize that they themselves need to change. .......................... When we are too lazy or cowardly to face situations, we can blame it on religion, tribe, colour, race or gender. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by podp on Aug 30, 2012 10:22:11 GMT 3
About holding Jukwaa and/or its members at ransom. "I will not cut my conscience to suit this year's fashions."Onyango Oloo Nairobi, KenyaI am not willing, now or in the future, to bring bad trouble to people who, in my past association with them, were completely innocent of any talk or any action that was disloyal or subversive. I do not like subversion or disloyalty in any form and if I had ever seen any I would have considered it my duty to have reported it to the proper authorities. But to hurt innocent people whom I knew many years ago in order to save myself is, to me, inhuman and indecent and dishonorable. historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6454/
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Post by podp on Aug 28, 2012 20:18:15 GMT 3
watch K24 the bench has Hon D. Mugatana
the warning signs are there for us to see!
we may be walking back to 2007/8
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Post by podp on Aug 28, 2012 16:00:46 GMT 3
Police officers complained that they are unable to stem the rioting because of vague orders www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000064956&pageNo=2rather than issue PR statements from peaceful Nairobi both principals need to visit Mombasa. additionally as parliament last week worked past midnight to pass a 'friendly' integrity bill the same parliament can work past midnight to enable Kenya have a legal police chief i.e. Inspector General as spelled out in the Constitution Me thinks your statement above is disingenuous. Since when did a condolence message become a PR statement? According to sources, Kibaki is due to arrive in Mombasa tonight, not to specifically to calm the masses, but to official open the Mombasa ASK Show tomorrow. As you can imagine the security presence in Mombasa has been increased ten-fold to onstensibly to protect the President. Am not sure if the President (who is also CiC) intends to spend an extra day to meet local religious and political leaders and inform them what his government is doing to bring the killers of Rogo to book and appeal for their help in bringing peace and tranquility in the Mombasa. The prime minister has been visiting victims at nearly ALL disaster / terrorist / militia attack zones be they in Turkana, Mombasa, Nairobi, Garissa, etc. He does not need to prove himself now and besides, he is not the CiC who you inform us is giving vague orders! 1st red highlight it is your right to think so. insincere to who? dishonest on what? if two-faced can you paint both faces so that i identify with one? 2nd red highlight instead of condolence message why not be part of the solution by ensuring we have an Inspector General who is in office legally and can issue non vague orders. by the way the statement is condoling who? 3rd red highlight opening Mombasa ASK show when their are riots in parts of Mombasa is telling on a PORK that is duplicitous. what is your take? 4th red highlight why visit victims? for choice camera shots and more madmen vitendawilis? or is it playing Coast Provincial Commissioner, Samuel Kilele style, the one who said “We cannot take a whole community to jail. Is it possible?” www.nation.co.ke/News/48+villager....n6/-/index.htmldoes that help? visit victims!
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Post by podp on Aug 28, 2012 15:01:32 GMT 3
PM speaks on Rogo murder Nairobi, August 28, 2012 PMPS
Prime Minister today strongly condemned the killing of Muslim cleric Aboud Rogo in Mombasa yesterday, saying the heinous act was unacceptable.
Speaking at a press conference in his office, the Prime Minister said the government had instructed the commissioner of police to move with speed and quickly apprehend the perpetrators so that they can be arraigned before a court of law.
He exonerated the government from involvement in the act saying the government does not condone killings of suspects adding if someone is suspected of committing a crime they are arrested and taken to court and not killed.
“We do not operate the rule of the jungle in this country, if someone is suspected of crimes there are laws to deal with it,” he said.
Mr. Odinga appealed for calm in the wake of the killing saying it is unfortunate that there are those who would want to give it a religious angle and instigate an inter-religious conflict between Muslims and Christians.
He said, “Just like they failed to fan such a conflict in Garissa when two churches were attacked recently, even now those torching churches in Mombasa will also fail.”
The Prime Minister asked both Christians and Muslims to act with restrain even as the government investigates the matter. Let us give the law enforcement agencies time to investigate the matter and bring the culprits to book. Police officers complained that they are unable to stem the rioting because of vague orders www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000064956&pageNo=2rather than issue PR statements from peaceful Nairobi both principals need to visit Mombasa. additionally as parliament last week worked past midnight to pass a 'friendly' integrity bill the same parliament can work past midnight to enable Kenya have a legal police chief i.e. Inspector General as spelled out in the Constitution
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Post by podp on Aug 28, 2012 14:35:31 GMT 3
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Post by podp on Aug 28, 2012 12:47:41 GMT 3
You need to be more focused on the issue. Your examples and digressions are irrelevant to this situation. Kathure is not being asked to resign because she is a woman. She is being asked to resign because of this:
jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7321She engaged in unsavory behavior unbecoming of a moderator (engaging in a fight with a member and chasing men on the internet like a little girl when she is my mother’s age-mate!). She lacks substance and members do not respect her. I cannot personally recall an instance when she ‘moderated’ anything on Jukwaa. Bur ‘sexism’ is what you engaged in a few posts back and was called out for. It is interesting that you think we should go easy on her because 'she is a woman'. It says a lot about your views on women. rr, 1st red highlight -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Jukwaaists: I know both of you beyond this forum. I plead with both of you to keep non-Jukwaa matters away from the forum. Please. I am writing after browsing a thread brought to my attention by a concerned Jukwaa member. Since I have been away dodging hooligans I have missed many exchanges. Onyango Oloo Jukwaa Administrator « Last Edit: Yesterday at 4:51am by Onyango Oloo » Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7321#ixzz24pbWknOXi do not read anywhere above asking her to resign. And by the way why are you bringing your mother here? We all have mothers; and i would not enjoy discussing my mama's bed mate(s) preferences unless you have not outgrown the Oedepus complex and still stay under her roof! 2nd red highlight so what about my views on The Second Sex? stimulates (+/-)
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Post by podp on Aug 28, 2012 10:51:07 GMT 3
Firm extends bids for steam power www.nation.co.ke/Features/smartcompany/Firm+extends+bids+for+steam+power/-/1226/1488176/-/ld6j3uz/-/index.htmlThe Geothermal Development Company (GDC) has extended the closing date for two tenders for development of 800 megawatt steam each at Bogoria and Menengai fields due to the low number of bidders. GDC told Smart Company that the move was meant to allow bidders more time to “prepare” documents. It also allayed fears that the extension would result into delayed implementation of the steam project which is to be used in generation of geothermal power, considered cheaper than thermal sources and a long-term solution to frequent power shortages during droughts. “GDC received several requests for extension citing the need for more time for bidders to prepare bid documents. In order to allow for competition, GDC decided to extend the closing date. This extension is way within our timelines since the selection of preferred investors is expected to be completed in July 2013,” said Ms Ruth Musembi, GDC communications manager in a statement. The tender requires companies to demonstrate capability to mobilise a minimum of $200 million (Sh16.8 billion) to develop 200 megawatt of steam accompanied by letters from credible financiers. In addition, bidders are required to demonstrate experience in developing a project of at least 30 megawatts over the last 10 years. Attempts to contact the Public Procurement Oversight Authority to shed light on the extension were unsuccessful as neither calls nor emails to the authority were answered. GDC is seeking four equity investors to develop 800 megawatt steam at Menengai, in the second phase of development at the field. Those successful will be engaged on a joint venture with the government for development of 200 megawatt steam each with the latter assuming the risk for failed wells. According to the initial tender notice, GDC would contribute between 20 and 40 per cent of the required capital for each of the projects. “It is a public private partnership. Under this joint steam development project, GDC will obtain all land rights, permits and undertake construction of the road network, drilling water reticulation system and drilling exploration wells to confirm the presence of the resource,” said Ms Musembi. Both tenders have earned an additional two weeks with the new closure dates for Menengai phase II and Bogoria Silali block phase I being September 17 and September 21, 2012 respectively. To date, GDC has developed 354 megawatts of steam out of 59 wells at the Olkaria geothermal field, part of which is scheduled for use in the 280 megawatt geothermal plant being set up by State-owned power generation company KenGen. According to the company’s records, an additional seven wells have been drilled at the Menengai steam field with four that drilled yielding 25 megawatts of steam.
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Post by podp on Aug 28, 2012 10:27:01 GMT 3
as for getting bought off? you all must be joking. when i was supporting Raila i didn't hear you saying that I'm getting paid to do so. now that I don't support him, I'm getting paid to do that. so it must be that you people who support Raila regardless of anything are getting paid off too. As for the ones who are telling me to quit, that isn't going to happen. if Oloo feels the need then he'll get rid of me. thats all. now please get off my case. I'm sure you all have more important things to do here. Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They want to control women. They want to control how we dress, they want to control how we act, they even want to control the decisions we make about our own health and bodies. The above is not me but a qoute from a recent speech at the Women in the World Summit, by USA, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. When I hear Jukwaa members asking KK ro resign, eat humble pie and what not it brings painful memories that Afghan woman imprisoned for adultery after being raped by a relative and is going free — but only because she agreed to marry the man who assaulted her. The 19-year-old woman, named only as Gulnaz, became high-profile after an EU-funded documentary film on her case was censored by diplomats who feared for her welfare. As attention to Gulnaz’s case rose, Afghan President Hamid Karzai was forced to intervene, announcing that she would be released if she agreed to mediation with her attacker. That mediation resulted in the current decision: that she be freed if she marries her rapist, a move her supporters say she feared. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/afghan-woman-freed-from-jail-after-agreeing-to-marry-rapist/2011/12/01/gIQAdW1UHO_blog.htmlKK do stay put where you are as we have also said nasty things to one another and you have not acted by asking us to do unpleasant things. But if you decide to throw in the towel you will remind me again of the Afghan lady who is now 'unhappily' married to the man who assaulted her rather than be in jail for being raped! In Afghan culture, a woman can legitimize a child born out of wedlock by marrying the father, even if the child was brought about by rape. Would anyone refuse the above if we substitued Afghan with Kenya?
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Post by podp on Aug 27, 2012 15:57:40 GMT 3
Chaotic scenes in Mombasa as the mob goes for Miguna. Note the character with a catapult at full stretch at 1:10 inside the hotel a few feet away from Miguna. If Raila & ODM do not condemn the violence there is bound to be some blow back even if it's the karmic kind. Miguna should suspend the book tour for a while: We may have to bite the bullet, dear fellow citizens. Freedom is not a child's play.(1) It has to be fought for and defended, in some other countries by bloody means. To have a look at intolerance vs freedom of expression, I went to watch a documentary after somebody on Jukwaa mentioned Salman Rushdie (2) and his adventures with European Muslims, after the fatwa following the publication of the Satanic Verses[/color][/b]. This documentary was about Aryaan Hirsi Ali, a former German-Dutch politician now working for a right-wing think-tank in Washington DC. Jamhuri can claim her, this Aryaan, because though born in Somalia, she went to school in Kenya, and only fled after her relatives here saw her more as a commodity, better sold off for wifely duties in adolescent, than be sent to further school. In Europe she received the shock of her life when the only thing they were interested in, was whether she understood she would have to repay the study-loan, quick and with interest. What she further did with her life was her own business. So as they say here, she doctorated, --graduate is not a currency term in Germany because even primary schools have graduations. (Hirsi Ali may have doctorated in Belgium or Holland). Inspired, and thinking of the fates of all those poor Muslim girls in Kenya and beyond, she became a leading feminist critic of the 'backwardness of Islam'. She soon radicalized into an unbeliever, and the death threats started to roll in. Forcing police protection. There are reels of cine where Muslim demonstrators bay for her blood outside debating theaters, where she is a guest peddling her book, debating audiences, autographing. Many institutes found it important to host the debates with her ---and as Muslims howled outside like wolves in mating season, Huntington's the clash of civilisations loomed big. The minister of police condescends with impunity: in this country we have always appreciated the cerebral. Peoples thinking can be wrong, but we never put them to death for it. Never be violent against them. We sit back, think out why they are wrong, engage them in debate, and correct the wrong thinking. Our fellow citizens loyal to a particular religion, definitely are not shaped in this mode. They remain a 1000 years behind, and looking at their countries, who wants to stand up and argue me wrong! And with that, the full powers of state protection were bestowed upon Hirsi Ali. (the religion-based Christian parties had their bones to pick with Hirsi Ali, but they did not do it in the Islamic fashion. They staged debates called feminism and religion, and invited Ali to battle). Looking at the comments of Kenyans on Miguna and his insults, I can not help but smile at their uncanny resemblance to the ones hurled at Hirsi Ali by the Islamic constituency where she came from, when missiles were thrown at her at a debate function. --- she was a provocateur! a blaspheming b!itch! sexually frigid, mentally rot, etc etc(3). When her collaborator in a film critical of Islam was slaughtered by a radical Muslim, the Imams smiled: he asked for it, did he not? Allah's sworded hand is long. But the rest of the civilised world stood aghast at the animal level of those people. THE CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS, again. Miguna is forcing us into an internal clash of civilisations. Are we to tolerate party affiliated goons violently harassing, to intimidate into silence, a disgruntled element promoting a book, even if we think the activist is peddling lies, insults, innuendo and the rest of the juices that keep our tongues busy wagging in delight? Or do we stand up and say: we wanted freedom of expression! take that! debate the lies in peace, demonstrate in peace, take the insults to court, but do not attack physically to show disagreement. We moved on as a country.Miguna brings this debate so sharply into focus by his controversial and theatrical public performances, that fellows just have to pesa positione(4). Decide their stand in their hearts.[/quote] 1. It was Fanon who said ‘the struggle for liberation includes both the mind and the muscles; thus, he insisted that, a ‘desire for revenge’ cannot ‘nurture a war of liberation’. If MM is driven by revenge it behoves the goons owner/hire-firm to know it does not work 'an eye for an eye' style. Teacher outlined the relations which exist between oppressor and oppressed. For example: "Any situation in which 'RAO' objectively exploits 'MM' or hinders his or her pursuit of self affirmation as a responsible person is one of oppression". And also: "One of the basic elements of the relationship between oppressor and oppressed is prescription. Every prescription represents the imposition of one individual's choice upon another, transforming the consciousness of the person prescribed into one that conforms with the prescriber's consciousness." Freedom, like child birth, if done traditionally, is a painful process. 2. Midnight's Children, Rushdie book before Satanic Versus was and remains my favourite. The Ground Beneath Her Feet which came after SV is a title reserved for those I find love hitting one below the belt. 3. If one reads The Second Sex it opens ones eye on use of such put downs. 4. Agree we need to find our level. If we start with taking each other through mud no problem as where there is mud a river must be somewhere nearby. We will wash ourselves and like elephants leave the ticks in the water and come out clean. So let the mudslinging continue if we must descend to that base level.
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Post by podp on Aug 27, 2012 11:09:06 GMT 3
Is this fire fighting? Good policy guideline! Or ethnicity in disguise? At ths rate Coal fired power plants wll be an ethnic (in this case Kamba) affair! So when we have nuclear power plants along the coast it will be Digo, Giriama etc affair and if along lake Victoria a Dholuo affair! And if along Lake Turkana a Turkana affair! www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kiraitu+appoints+team+to+hasten+coal+exploration/-/1006/1487666/-/12t47i2/-/index.html Kiraitu appoints team to hasten coal exploration In Summary •The team’s work will involve advocacy, education and analysis of matters pertaining to coal business and main-streaming the energy resource projects into community initiatives. •Earlier this month, a tender to award rights to mine coal in blocks A and B in the same basin attracted 18 companies with experience in coal exploration, coal-fired power generation, geological and prospecting know-how. •Two weeks ago, the High Court in Machakos issued an order restraining Energy permanent secretary Patrick Nyoike and Attorney-General Githu Muigai from signing any agreements with Fenxi Mining Industry Company that won a contract to mine in Kitui County’s Mui Basin. Energy minister Kiraitu Murungi has appointed a team to fast-track the development of coal resources in Mui Basin, Kitui County. In a Gazette notice on Friday, Mr Murungi appointed a 13-member committee to spearhead the coal development project in Blocks C and D for a term of three years. “For the purposes of realising Kenya’s Vision 2030 and to fast-track development of coal resources in order to enhance the production of affordable, reliable, commercial and industrial energy, (the minister) establishes a committee to be known as Mui Basin Coal Project Blocks C and D Liaison Committee,” the notice by Mr Murungi (right) reads in part. Its members are Mr Eric Kyalo Mutua, Mr Titus Kivaa Mbiti, Mr Paul Mumo Kisau, Mr Gideon Wathe Nzau, Ms Florence Mutawali Kitonga, Ms Patricia Kisio Kimanzi, Mr Joseph Muthi Nzuni, Ms Margaret Munyoki, Mr Solomon Kimanzi Kivoto, Ms Eunice Kelly Wambua, Mr David Kilonzi Maweu, Mr John Kimakio Mutia and Nzomo Mulatia. The team’s work will involve advocacy, education and analysis of matters pertaining to coal business and main-streaming the energy resource projects into community initiatives. Prospecting know-how Mining rights for coal in blocks C and D in Mui Basin have already been awarded to Chinese firm, Fenxi Industry Mining Group. Earlier this month, a tender to award rights to mine coal in blocks A and B in the same basin attracted 18 companies with experience in coal exploration, coal-fired power generation, geological and prospecting know-how. Before the tender award, each company is expected to show their ability to raise approximately Sh16.8 billion ($200 million) for the project as well as capital base and annual revenues of about Sh8.4 billion ($100 million). Share This Story Two weeks ago, the High Court in Machakos issued an order restraining Energy permanent secretary Patrick Nyoike and Attorney-General Githu Muigai from signing any agreements with Fenxi Mining Industry Company that won a contract to mine in Kitui County’s Mui Basin.
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Post by podp on Aug 27, 2012 11:01:03 GMT 3
etc i hope i have pointed the discussion towards real resolutions and not more political games my take is this, we must always first define the problem (1), remove or strip any individual or vested interests (2), then project short and long term (3) and then work towards resolution (4)right now its just more of the same how is 1 from one persepctive The National Police Service Act, one of the laws guiding police reforms, does not recognise some of the existing ranks in the police service. It scrapped five ranks like Commissioner of Police, Deputy Commissioner of Police I and II, Deputy Commissioner of Police, Senior Assistant Commissioner of Police and Assistant Commissioner of Police of both regular and Administration Police. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000064877&story_title=Crisis-as-Kibaki,-Raila-put-police-reforms-in-limbo “They are intentionally creating a constitutional crisis because they know what the law says. how to deal with 2? who will bell the cats (President and PM)? then 3 and 4 would follow
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Post by podp on Aug 27, 2012 10:42:13 GMT 3
Just catching up on Jukwa and what a week full of events it sounds. While in Kendu Bay next time stay at Big Five where the generation Y love hanging and weekends its definitely houseful or Lakeview if you want serenity. Back to your essay you say ‘ delving deeply into the problems of unemployment, crisis of education and general underdevelopment in Nyanza especially as these issues pertained to the youth and were aggravated by ills like corruption, tribalism, nepotism.’ That is the bit I would like to keep and yap on. When we see, read, hear, witness etc what happened in Tana Delta, Wajir and to a very ‘minor’ way to your Book Tour in both Kisumu and Mombasa one cannot help but marvel at our current ‘leadership’! Instead of talking past, present and giving way forward on the unemployment, crisis in education and general under-development the youths in particular face which is aggravated by ills (corruption, nepotism, impunity) we hear them talk at cross purpose (Wajir leaders split into two those against House Deputy Speaker gave a statement from Nairobi while the one they poured vitriol on was with others at the ground) (Tana delta we heard acting Minister of Internal Security lambast the Assistant Minister of Livestock Development who in turn said repeatedly he cannot attend a meeting chaired by the Minister)(MM calls RAO the one hiring goons while RAO says wacha wazimu arukeruke after Prof Anyang Nyongo says Wacheni Miguna Miguna auuze kitabu chake. Anahitaji senti)! Employment, education and under development is not on the leaders lips! You will have a successful County book tour at the end as even non reformers like Uhuruto are laughing at RAO as they do the mud dance. Looking forward to meeting you in Nyeri and having my copy signed again after finishing to read it! A friend told me unlike Githongo, MM is like a firefigting truck or ambulance that passes the streets with sirens blaring. If it is a false alarm (fire & casualties) all are notified and if it is a 'Saitoti-Ojode' death again all are notified. If no sirens no one would know of the false alarm or 'Saitoti-Ojode' death. What RAO and Uhuruto dislike in MM is the media camera trailing him and not them! As we reflect on democracy and political tolerance we need to allow MM talk about 'the problems of unemployment, crisis of education and general underdevelopment..' while RAO does his Vitendawilis plus who will be his running mate (someone post the cartoon of Gado in todays Nation that shows how running mates are picked) and Uhuruto their ...
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Post by podp on Aug 27, 2012 10:27:35 GMT 3
Two opposite views 1st: Why would an elected leader, a person in whom a lot of trust has been bestowed, resort to such bestiality just to retain leadership? Why would right thinking Kenyans take up arrows, guns and machetes and use them indiscriminately against fellow Kenyans at the prompting of some moron? These attacks were not spontaneous. They were premeditated and retaliatory, hence the security forces should have known. Where were they? Is the NSIS sleeping on the job? www.nation.co.ke/oped/Letters/+Tana+killings+let+some+heads+roll/-/440806/1487538/-/sw85f6/-/index.html2nd: If the Orma and Pokomo are incapable of behaving and living in a generally recognised, civilised manner, let them fight. Conclusion Will have something before end of day
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Post by podp on Aug 23, 2012 12:47:02 GMT 3
You should look at it just like when the Mobile phone started. Not everybody could afford it. Then abruptly everybody could own a mobile phone, where you can call your grandmother, while she in her shamba in the rural and you are in skyscraper office in New York. If someone had told you that 20 years ago, you would have told them they are crazy. What about starting now on the industry of producing own photovoltaics and put up a think Tank of Scientist to research with the rest of the world in this and other unavoidable future technology? The problem with Kenyans is sitting down complaining they need this and that, but somebody else must provide it for them. If you wait for the first world to bring you energy you will get Bones where meat has being completely curved from them. The Nuclear Power plants whose makers cannot sell in the first world anymore, as the first world is moving to the future High Technology of making energy is looking for Idiots to milk them dry by killing their children.. An example how Kenya is incompetent in handling such a sophisticated and highly dangerous ticking Nuke bomb is this: Compare Nairobi town of today and the one we Inherited from the British and had till sometime in the late 80’s. Till then we still had that beautiful green town under the sun. With beautiful landscapes and designed gardens. Then slowly we messed up that and look how Nairobi looks like today. It’s run by matatus and corrupted city council and police. If our leaders are incompetent and ignorance enough to kill that beautiful Nairobi town how are they going to keep a ticking time bomb nuke power energy plant save? You write the truth. But I'm beginning to wonder if anyone is serious about this, or if it's just an eating opportunity. After all, there is no better way to eat than to have a "feasibility" study: the only expected product is a report. On the other hand, we might just be fools enough to do it, because we think it will make us look "advanced". The state of Nairobi is interesting, considering that the council has always had a substantial City Planning Department. I think a major problem is that maintenance and long-term planning are words that do not seem to exist in our vocabulary. A road is built, and, instead of fixing small potholes and having running repairs, we wait until potholes are big enough to swallow a cow and occur every 100 metres; then we start with a new road. And the same approach applies to buildings, hospital equipment, railway ... you name it. The problem, though, is that it is not an approach that can be applied to an entire city and everything in it. By the way, what services does Nairobi City Council provide for its residents? I write this just having come from cycling at the outskirts of the city in which I live. There are no dwellings there, but plans have been made for when the city will expand: nice roads already exist, water and power lines have already been laid out, areas have been earmarked for a school, a shopping mall, etc. This is all for what is expected in 5 to10 years. That is what I call city planning. On first red highlight why not kick in Freedom of Information Bill and Open Standards. Friends tell me that they done everything that needs to be done. Now it is stuck at CIC. Only you can push it out of there as a responsible citizen. Once enacted it will complement the Constitution and you can demand answers to your 'buts' and 'ifs'. On the second red highlight its true we have a Ministry of Planning, National Development and Vision 2030. We also have, say in the City Council of Nairobi a whole Department on Planning. What has been lacking is coherence between the plans and what is actual since the planners are almost always technocrats while the guys allocating themselves plots are elected Councillors who are least keen to follow the plans. Again the Constitution and Vision 2030 makes impunity a less attractive panacea than it used to be.
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