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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 24, 2011 4:15:02 GMT 3
A grenade attack on a nightclub in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, has left 14 people injured, say police.
The grenade was throw in the club early on Monday morning - the motive was not immediately clear.
The attack comes a week after Kenya sent troops into Somalia to track down members of the militant group al-Shabab, which Nairobi blames for a series of kidnappings in recent weeks.
Al-Shabab had threatened reprisal attacks if the troops did not leave.
The al-Qaeda-linked Islamist group, which controls much of southern and central Somalia, has denied carrying out any abductions.
Last week, Kenya announced it would carry out a major security operation in Nairobi to flush out al-Shabab sympathisers once its Somali
By bbc.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 24, 2011 2:32:08 GMT 3
Kamalet,
You actually raised red herrings! check your initial post. You brought out the Mau saga. Don't turn it on me. I was only responding.
The size of a brain has no direct relationship to how much political propaganda one propagates. A box Jelly has no brain yet it can tell what is directly ahead of its path.This is a scientific fact. Some people have extra large brains - only to use them to either confuse, castigate or kill people while many others have actually caused more harm in Kenya with their brains.
The Kenyan political landscape is full of parties whose interests and goals are not always what they say or seem to be. The fourth estate is often intertwined in these murky machinations. The so called facts are therefore relative rather than absolute. Mainstream media in which you draw 'your facts' from is controlled by you know who. If you are privy to the real government, then you must have picked word going around about why this audit had to be conducted in the first place and who begged the WB to pull the plug. I can assure you, this was done for much more than 37 million shillings. It is glaringly suspect that the WB could do this over such a small amount. You can choose not to see this or out rightly group yourself with the loud mouths who want the PM to step down, or pretend not to know what this all about.
Either way, we both know the PM will not resign over this. We can bet on this. Atakaa pare pare. Lest you wanna hold an election today in which case you already know the results. Ruto and Co can take this line as their new slogan for political purposes, they seem to lack good lines anyway other than anything revolving around the PM,but it aint going anywhere. It wont even alter their ratings in the next Infotrack Poll. Omtatah may chain himself to the PM's leg, it still wont change a thing. By tomorrow you should hear the ODM brigade up in arms ready to defend their own. Then maybe the real facts of what conspired will being to see the light. Already the so called report '' that is just a preliminary finding' has pointed out the persons who committed the crimes. I did not see PM's name being mentioned. Stealing public money is a criminal offense not a political one. Lets hang the criminals. If the PM stole, lets send him to the gallows too. If he didn't, then lets stop the hullabaloo.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 23, 2011 20:43:52 GMT 3
Kamalet, Actually, Kazi kwa vijana was implemented by 6 ministries. The PM's office was actually meant to coordinate these ministries, a role so meager than what the public has been meant to believe. A big junk of this fund was channeled to individual ministries directly from UK's office with the approval of the PM's office. The whistle blowers again are people on the other side of the coalition who are wary of the 2012 outcome. They too want a share of their youths and if the PM has them engaged in some economic activity, nobody will be flashing out older folks to go and vote. These guys would rather see Kenya lose this fund than risk causing an increment of the PM's voters over mere 37M.
We all know the Mau issue was particularly implanted in the PM office with PNU strategists in a bid to draw out the Ruto faction from ODM which they have succeeded. They later tried with Luhya's with the cemetery saga but failed miserably. The PM actually did execute the Mau eviction to the letter, till again the other side of the collation realized it was according him more political mileage and international recognition, they then methodically cut its funding through you know who.
This implies that the youths are free to be used and misused by some of political personalities who are keen to win the next general elections rather than being engaged in some social-political activities. You will soon hear youths from different areas of the country proclaiming who they they support at the top of their voices. In other words, the campaign for 2012 is officially on.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 23, 2011 14:50:21 GMT 3
Kamalet, could you furnish us with the total money spent so far and the percentage of that that has so far been stolen. According to the Nation article, 12 billion was granted for the project to 6 ministries. How much was allocated to the PM'S office? How about the other ministries? I can see a figure of 972 millon somewhere. If the PM office squandered 37 million out of that, then its less than 4 percent of the total amount given. Some ministries squander way higher than 4 % of their funds. This is in fact meager. Ongeri saw a loss of more than 4 billion under his watch. Without supporting the PM, lets get some clarity in the numbers.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 22, 2011 2:17:07 GMT 3
Come on guys, you all know how propaganda war is fought. Sadaam claimed Americans will die like flies, Gadhafi promised death to the rats, yet these regimes fell miserably. Al-Shabaab is trying not to lose all wars; If they lose the battle, then a tleast they will win the propaganda one.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 21, 2011 23:34:33 GMT 3
Hello guys, I found this article from Somalilandpress.Com. This is a very hot site that you guys should visit from time to time. I have been reading their comments and opinions and I can tell you that these guys first of all hate Bantus ( Nilotes do not celebrate yet) and Subsaharan Africans in general. They believe that Kenyans are looting their properties with their invasion and are there for their own interest. Their general tone of expression is scary too even when they are talking amongst themselves. I am beginning to understand why they are killing each other and why it is sometimes hard to cut a deal with them. Kenya maybe a tribal state but Somali exemplifies an epitome of Clansmen-ship where nothing matters but the clan. Its a dangerous situation therein.
I did not want to start another thread since we already have another one on this war but I felt it was important to point out particularly about this article by one Dr Yusuf Dirir Ali. This guy from what I have found out if correct is a medical Dr in UK, probably an immigrant who most likely fled Somali through Kenya to the UK. He is enjoying his hefty pay yet he comments on how Somali is going to crush Kenya. Lets hear you opinion.
Long before Restore Hope, the joint UN and USA humanitarian campaign in Somalia in early 1990s, a consultant to the UNO on Somalia, advised the USA administration to attempt everything else but not war with Somalis, in his opinion; war is the thing Somalis know best. The USA did not heed to that precious advice and we all remember the way that campaign went wrong – it ended with the famous Black hawk down and that was the last USA chapter of waging war in Somalia – at least an open and all out ground war. That UNO consultant is called Mr. John Drysdale. He knew the closing stages of the campaign even before it was waged. He was not a fortune teller; Mr. Drysdale was some one who had first hand experience of what Somalis are capable to accomplishing in the war field. He was the British administrator of Somaliland more than four decades prior to the debut of that campaign.
The Ethiopians were not dissuaded by the USA experience in Somalia. They did not either learn much from their centuries-old wars with Somalis and with the help of the USA air power, they too attacked and captured Mogadishu, but their victory did not last for too long and they were also compelled to a humiliating withdrawal after Somalis taught them a lesson in urban and guerrilla warfare. Now it appears that the Kenyans did not learn much about the history of Somali warfare. In my opinion they too have made very bad miscalculations and do not understand that all Somalis are not the murderous Al-shabaab group and the Transitional Federal government. The Somali population is not the weak and famine-devastated thousands that live in refugee camps in the Northern Frontier district (NFD), which it self is a Somali region given to Kenya in the early sixties, after Kenya gained its independence from Britain. NFD is one of the five Somali territories represented in the star on the Somalia flag. Besides NFD, the other four Somali territories are Somalia, The Republic of Djibouti, The self administered Somali region in Ethiopia and the Republic of Somaliland.
The Kenyans fancy to believe that they could win a war and defeat Somalis, it is passable for them to accept as true what they believe, but the truth of the matter is they are playing with inextinguishable fire – a greater Somali fire. By starting a war in this region can easily instigating Somalis to reclaim their Northern Frontier District (NFD). Therefore, I brotherly advise the Kenyans to withdraw immediately before Somalis beat the drums of war, believe me that will not be a good sign for the Kenyans. To give you an example of what that could mean; the recent Kenyan civil unrest will feel just like a picnic in warm summer day on Mount Kilimanjaro.
Since its independence from Italy, Somalia is wounded by civil war, famine, terrorism and corrupt incompetent consecutive regimes, but Somalis are far from death and are strong enough to inflict an ever lasting damage to an aggressor. They are also blessed with Muslim and Arab brethren, who will not hesitate to assist them to rebel all enemies from all Somali territories. Kenyans have no business crossing the borders to Somalia; it is illegal under International law and it is morally wrong. If they have beef with Al-Shabaab then they must fight them in their own territory and not inside Somalia. Kenyans must not arrogantly over estimate their economic and military power and must keep in mind, that only Somalis are capable of defeating Somalis and no body else. They must bear in mind that their country is very easily susceptible to be fractured through ethnic and tribal lines. By starting a war with Somalis Kenyan economy and tourist industry can be devastated within hours. It must realize that it can not win the wars lost by super powers. Kenya must not be fooled by the guys who call themselves the TFG of Somalia; these guys lack morality, education, experience and live their lives under the protection of the Ugandan forces tanks in their home – Mogadishu. They can be bought and sold in a junk yard. If the Kenyans trust the strategic analysis of these TFG guys then they are deficient in judgement. Somalis know too well the illegal Somalia territorial water’s concession made to Kenya by the illegal and morally corrupt TFG. Somalis are aware of the Azania project that is established by Kenyans through a mercenary force headed by Mr. Gandi, a power Hungary opportunist. Somalis quite appreciate Kenya’s geopolitical ambitions, both short and long term strategies. By looking at realities on the ground, these Kenyan dreams are far from becoming true. Kenyans politicians must clear their heads of the myths and wrong assumptions. They are not able to conquer more territories from Somalis, but instead the Northern Frontier District might go back to hands of Somalis. In recent years Kenya was enrich with not only the looting of the Somalia’s International assistance through the NGOs operated mafia that consider the humanitarian assistance, war and drought confounded Somalis as their personal spoils of war. Not only that, but Kenya is also benefiting from Somalis who bring with them capital, technical and business expertise to that corruption riddle East African country. Somalis have both directly & indirectly created jobs for millions of Kenyans. Thus, Kenya benefited from Somalia more than any country in the world. For those simple reasons, Kenyans should be grateful to the Somalis and must not try to slaughter the goose that laid the golden eggs. Kenyans and for that matter any other neighbouring country must think twice before they venture to play with Somali fire; it will never die very easily. Somalis might consider moving their businesses and investments from Kenya to neighbouring Republic of Somaliland and The Republic of Djibouti. Both Somaliland and Djibouti are eager to receive their Somali brethren and their investments with open hearts. The United Nations and the donor countries might also consider moving their offices to the more peaceful and politically stable Somaliland, since Kenya is not able to provide security to the foreign diplomats, expatriates and tourists in its country.
Yusuf Dirir Ali
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 21, 2011 23:27:46 GMT 3
Hello guys, I found this article from Somalilandpress.com. This is a very hot site that you guys should visit from time to time. I have been reading their comments and opinions and I can tell you that these guys first of all hate Bantus ( Nilotes, dont celebrate yet) and Subsaharan Africans in general. They believe that Kenyans are looting their properties with their invasion and in Somali for that. Their general tone of expression is scary too even when they are talking amongst themselves. Kenya maybe a tribal state but Somalis exemplify an epitome of Clansmenship. I am beginning to understand why they are killing each other and why it is difficult to even bargain with them huko Garrisa Lodge.
I did not want to start another thread since we have another one focused on this warbut I felt it was important to point out particularly about this article by one Dr Yusuf Dirir Ali. He is a regular commentator in many journals. This guy from what I have found out if correct is a medical Dr in UK, probably an immigrant who most likely fled Somali through Kenya. He is enjoying his hefty pay yet he comments on how Somali is going to crush Kenya even though Kenya is not really at war with Somali. Lets hear your opinions.
Long before Restore Hope, the joint UN and USA humanitarian campaign in Somalia in early 1990s, a consultant to the UNO on Somalia, advised the USA administration to attempt everything else but not war with Somalis, in his opinion; war is the thing Somalis know best. The USA did not heed to that precious advice and we all remember the way that campaign went wrong – it ended with the famous Black hawk down and that was the last USA chapter of waging war in Somalia – at least an open and all out ground war. That UNO consultant is called Mr. John Drysdale. He knew the closing stages of the campaign even before it was waged. He was not a fortune teller; Mr. Drysdale was some one who had first hand experience of what Somalis are capable to accomplishing in the war field. He was the British administrator of Somaliland more than four decades prior to the debut of that campaign.
The Ethiopians were not dissuaded by the USA experience in Somalia. They did not either learn much from their centuries-old wars with Somalis and with the help of the USA air power, they too attacked and captured Mogadishu, but their victory did not last for too long and they were also compelled to a humiliating withdrawal after Somalis taught them a lesson in urban and guerrilla warfare. Now it appears that the Kenyans did not learn much about the history of Somali warfare. In my opinion they too have made very bad miscalculations and do not understand that all Somalis are not the murderous Al-shabaab group and the Transitional Federal government. The Somali population is not the weak and famine-devastated thousands that live in refugee camps in the Northern Frontier district (NFD), which it self is a Somali region given to Kenya in the early sixties, after Kenya gained its independence from Britain. NFD is one of the five Somali territories represented in the star on the Somalia flag. Besides NFD, the other four Somali territories are Somalia, The Republic of Djibouti, The self administered Somali region in Ethiopia and the Republic of Somaliland.
The Kenyans fancy to believe that they could win a war and defeat Somalis, it is passable for them to accept as true what they believe, but the truth of the matter is they are playing with inextinguishable fire – a greater Somali fire. By starting a war in this region can easily instigating Somalis to reclaim their Northern Frontier District (NFD). Therefore, I brotherly advise the Kenyans to withdraw immediately before Somalis beat the drums of war, believe me that will not be a good sign for the Kenyans. To give you an example of what that could mean; the recent Kenyan civil unrest will feel just like a picnic in warm summer day on Mount Kilimanjaro.
Since its independence from Italy, Somalia is wounded by civil war, famine, terrorism and corrupt incompetent consecutive regimes, but Somalis are far from death and are strong enough to inflict an ever lasting damage to an aggressor. They are also blessed with Muslim and Arab brethren, who will not hesitate to assist them to rebel all enemies from all Somali territories. Kenyans have no business crossing the borders to Somalia; it is illegal under International law and it is morally wrong. If they have beef with Al-Shabaab then they must fight them in their own territory and not inside Somalia. Kenyans must not arrogantly over estimate their economic and military power and must keep in mind, that only Somalis are capable of defeating Somalis and no body else. They must bear in mind that their country is very easily susceptible to be fractured through ethnic and tribal lines. By starting a war with Somalis Kenyan economy and tourist industry can be devastated within hours. It must realize that it can not win the wars lost by super powers. Kenya must not be fooled by the guys who call themselves the TFG of Somalia; these guys lack morality, education, experience and live their lives under the protection of the Ugandan forces tanks in their home – Mogadishu. They can be bought and sold in a junk yard. If the Kenyans trust the strategic analysis of these TFG guys then they are deficient in judgement. Somalis know too well the illegal Somalia territorial water’s concession made to Kenya by the illegal and morally corrupt TFG. Somalis are aware of the Azania project that is established by Kenyans through a mercenary force headed by Mr. Gandi, a power Hungary opportunist. Somalis quite appreciate Kenya’s geopolitical ambitions, both short and long term strategies. By looking at realities on the ground, these Kenyan dreams are far from becoming true. Kenyans politicians must clear their heads of the myths and wrong assumptions. They are not able to conquer more territories from Somalis, but instead the Northern Frontier District might go back to hands of Somalis. In recent years Kenya was enrich with not only the looting of the Somalia’s International assistance through the NGOs operated mafia that consider the humanitarian assistance, war and drought confounded Somalis as their personal spoils of war. Not only that, but Kenya is also benefiting from Somalis who bring with them capital, technical and business expertise to that corruption riddle East African country. Somalis have both directly & indirectly created jobs for millions of Kenyans. Thus, Kenya benefited from Somalia more than any country in the world. For those simple reasons, Kenyans should be grateful to the Somalis and must not try to slaughter the goose that laid the golden eggs. Kenyans and for that matter any other neighbouring country must think twice before they venture to play with Somali fire; it will never die very easily. Somalis might consider moving their businesses and investments from Kenya to neighbouring Republic of Somaliland and The Republic of Djibouti. Both Somaliland and Djibouti are eager to receive their Somali brethren and their investments with open hearts. The United Nations and the donor countries might also consider moving their offices to the more peaceful and politically stable Somaliland, since Kenya is not able to provide security to the foreign diplomats, expatriates and tourists in its country.
Yusuf Dirir Ali
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 21, 2011 22:04:42 GMT 3
Hello guys, I found this article from Somalilandpress.Com. This is a very hot site that you guys should visit from time to time. I have been reading their comments and opinions and I can tell you that these guys first of all hate Bantus and Subsaharan Africans in general. They believe that Kenyans are looting their properties with their invasion and are there for their own interest. Their general tone of expression is scary too even when they are talking amongst themselves. Kenya maybe a tribal state but Somalis exemplify an epitome of Clansmenship.
I did not want to start another thread but I felt it was important to point out particularly about this article by one Dr Yusuf Dirir Ali. This guy from what I have found out if correct is a medical Dr in UK, probably an immigrant who most likely fled Somali through Kenya to the UK. He is enjoying his hefty pay yet he comments on how Somali is going to crush Kenya. Lets hear you opinion.
Long before Restore Hope, the joint UN and USA humanitarian campaign in Somalia in early 1990s, a consultant to the UNO on Somalia, advised the USA administration to attempt everything else but not war with Somalis, in his opinion; war is the thing Somalis know best. The USA did not heed to that precious advice and we all remember the way that campaign went wrong – it ended with the famous Black hawk down and that was the last USA chapter of waging war in Somalia – at least an open and all out ground war. That UNO consultant is called Mr. John Drysdale. He knew the closing stages of the campaign even before it was waged. He was not a fortune teller; Mr. Drysdale was some one who had first hand experience of what Somalis are capable to accomplishing in the war field. He was the British administrator of Somaliland more than four decades prior to the debut of that campaign.
The Ethiopians were not dissuaded by the USA experience in Somalia. They did not either learn much from their centuries-old wars with Somalis and with the help of the USA air power, they too attacked and captured Mogadishu, but their victory did not last for too long and they were also compelled to a humiliating withdrawal after Somalis taught them a lesson in urban and guerrilla warfare. Now it appears that the Kenyans did not learn much about the history of Somali warfare. In my opinion they too have made very bad miscalculations and do not understand that all Somalis are not the murderous Al-shabaab group and the Transitional Federal government. The Somali population is not the weak and famine-devastated thousands that live in refugee camps in the Northern Frontier district (NFD), which it self is a Somali region given to Kenya in the early sixties, after Kenya gained its independence from Britain. NFD is one of the five Somali territories represented in the star on the Somalia flag. Besides NFD, the other four Somali territories are Somalia, The Republic of Djibouti, The self administered Somali region in Ethiopia and the Republic of Somaliland.
The Kenyans fancy to believe that they could win a war and defeat Somalis, it is passable for them to accept as true what they believe, but the truth of the matter is they are playing with inextinguishable fire – a greater Somali fire. By starting a war in this region can easily instigating Somalis to reclaim their Northern Frontier District (NFD). Therefore, I brotherly advise the Kenyans to withdraw immediately before Somalis beat the drums of war, believe me that will not be a good sign for the Kenyans. To give you an example of what that could mean; the recent Kenyan civil unrest will feel just like a picnic in warm summer day on Mount Kilimanjaro.
Since its independence from Italy, Somalia is wounded by civil war, famine, terrorism and corrupt incompetent consecutive regimes, but Somalis are far from death and are strong enough to inflict an ever lasting damage to an aggressor. They are also blessed with Muslim and Arab brethren, who will not hesitate to assist them to rebel all enemies from all Somali territories. Kenyans have no business crossing the borders to Somalia; it is illegal under International law and it is morally wrong. If they have beef with Al-Shabaab then they must fight them in their own territory and not inside Somalia. Kenyans must not arrogantly over estimate their economic and military power and must keep in mind, that only Somalis are capable of defeating Somalis and no body else. They must bear in mind that their country is very easily susceptible to be fractured through ethnic and tribal lines. By starting a war with Somalis Kenyan economy and tourist industry can be devastated within hours. It must realize that it can not win the wars lost by super powers. Kenya must not be fooled by the guys who call themselves the TFG of Somalia; these guys lack morality, education, experience and live their lives under the protection of the Ugandan forces tanks in their home – Mogadishu. They can be bought and sold in a junk yard. If the Kenyans trust the strategic analysis of these TFG guys then they are deficient in judgement. Somalis know too well the illegal Somalia territorial water’s concession made to Kenya by the illegal and morally corrupt TFG. Somalis are aware of the Azania project that is established by Kenyans through a mercenary force headed by Mr. Gandi, a power Hungary opportunist. Somalis quite appreciate Kenya’s geopolitical ambitions, both short and long term strategies. By looking at realities on the ground, these Kenyan dreams are far from becoming true. Kenyans politicians must clear their heads of the myths and wrong assumptions. They are not able to conquer more territories from Somalis, but instead the Northern Frontier District might go back to hands of Somalis. In recent years Kenya was enrich with not only the looting of the Somalia’s International assistance through the NGOs operated mafia that consider the humanitarian assistance, war and drought confounded Somalis as their personal spoils of war. Not only that, but Kenya is also benefiting from Somalis who bring with them capital, technical and business expertise to that corruption riddle East African country. Somalis have both directly & indirectly created jobs for millions of Kenyans. Thus, Kenya benefited from Somalia more than any country in the world. For those simple reasons, Kenyans should be grateful to the Somalis and must not try to slaughter the goose that laid the golden eggs. Kenyans and for that matter any other neighbouring country must think twice before they venture to play with Somali fire; it will never die very easily. Somalis might consider moving their businesses and investments from Kenya to neighbouring Republic of Somaliland and The Republic of Djibouti. Both Somaliland and Djibouti are eager to receive their Somali brethren and their investments with open hearts. The United Nations and the donor countries might also consider moving their offices to the more peaceful and politically stable Somaliland, since Kenya is not able to provide security to the foreign diplomats, expatriates and tourists in its country.
Yusuf Dirir Ali
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 20, 2011 4:55:52 GMT 3
I have always imagined that there are no clear divisions amongst the house of you know who. This man Ngunjiri Wambugu thinks otherwise. If what he says is true, UK has an even bigger fight right at his homestead.
Team Uhuru is currently engaged in a region-wide propaganda campaign that is running primarily on Kikuyu vernacular radio stations supported by intra-central region political activities and rallies. The message is that Uhuru Kenyatta is the 'heir' to President Mwai Kibaki’s perceived four million-strong vote bloc and that Kikuyus must support Uhuru so that he can be the next President in 2012. This message is silent in the role of the other 82per cent non-Kikuyu Kenyans in this matter, but that is a discussion for another day.
This is a powerful strategy in a region still reeling from unresolved ethnic-related political violence during the last election, and that is now considering an upcoming political transition. Basically Kikuyus are being asked to ‘kaa hivyo hivyo’ in 2012 because Uhuru is like Kibaki. Unfortunately this is a Big Lie that borrows quite heavily from Adolf Hitler’s book ‘Mein Kampf’ written in 1925. In his book Hitler stated that when one lies it should be such a colossal lie that no one will believe that anyone could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.
The reasons why I call Team-Uhuru’s propaganda a big lie is because the idea that someone like Uhuru can sell the message ‘Kikuyus must vote as a block’ is amazing. This is the man who in 2002 split the Kikuyu vote when Kibaki was running for President! That anyone can suggest any similarities between Uhuru & Kibaki beyond the fact that they are Kikuyu male politicians shows a complete lack of faith in the specifically the Kikuyu/Mt Kenya voter’s abilities to tell fact from fiction, and the Kenyan voters new awareness of their responsibilities as voters.
Let me look at three examples of the differences between the two.
Team-Uhuru seeks to sell the point that those who support Kibaki do so because he is a Kikuyu. However Kibaki has never, to my recollection, sold himself as a Kikuyu candidate in any single election. To the contrary he has always been the one other Kikuyu candidates called a spoiler (In 1992, against Matiba: and in 2002 against Uhuru). Kibaki’s politics are also so ‘un-Kikuyu’ in that they are so non-confrontational— that at one point some Kikuyus coined the name General ‘Kiguoya’ (the coward) in reference to him. Even Uhuru once called it the ‘hands-off- legs-off, everything-off’ style. Kibaki’s politics is the kind that will engage and/or accommodate opinions of Kikuyus like Maina Kiai, Muthoni Wanyeki, Ndungu Wainanina, Njeri Kabeberi, etc: even when they do not agree. Compare this with Uhuru’s political style, and the fact that Team-Uhuru is desperately trying to portray all Kikuyus who do not agree with Uhuru as ‘traitors’.
The second thing the Team-Uhuru completely gloss over is the fact that Kibaki’s politics are very ‘petit bourgeoisie. Kibaki’s entire career his politics has been associated with middle class interests across all the communities. Uhuru’s politics on the other hand are quite clearly ‘haute bourgeoisie: about the interests of the capital owners. In fact I am convinced that this is why Team-Uhuru is in a panic about the other Kikuyu presidential aspirants. Martha Karua, Peter Kenneth and Paul Muite’s politics are more attractive to Kibaki’s vote bloc, than Uhuru’s politics.
The third issue that Team-Uhuru propaganda must be evaluated against are the differences between the two leaders’ political personalities. In my opinion there is a sense in which one feels the overbearing presence of Uhuru Kenyatta and/or Team Uhuru in Kenya’s political arena. Compare that with Team Kibaki who we only feel directly when we are stuck in traffic jam!
Sometimes when I compare the two leaders I feel as if whereas Team Kibaki operates on the basis that it is a privilege to lead Kenya, and thus observes certain tenets of humility in their public engagements: Team Uhuru operates on the basis that their man was born in State house & deserves to go back there! In addition, has anyone ever considered whether in 2008, all things being constant but with Uhuru as President instead of Kibaki, Uhuru would have accepted a Coalition Government? Or whether under an Uhuru Presidency Kenya would now have a new constitution?
The psychology behind the ‘Big Lie’ strategy is that one should never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy and blame him for everything that goes wrong; and that people will always believe a big lie sooner than a little one; especially if you repeat it frequently enough.
Unfortunately a detailed look at the differences between Uhuru and Kibaki shows clearly that Uhuru Kenyatta cannot possibly inherit President Kibaki’s votes anywhere, leave alone those in the Mt Kenya region. This does not mean that Kenyatta is not a worthy candidate for President in 2012: he has his own vote bloc especially amongst from Kiambu county who voted for him to the man in 2002.
Wambugu is the head of Change Associates.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 18, 2011 1:13:47 GMT 3
Double O, forget about them. They were just doing their jobs. When you have a job, you try to please your boss. Otherwise, you will expunged. Even now that they are working for the ICC, they are just carrying out their jobs. I don't think that at heart they really care about the victims who were affected by the PEV.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 18, 2011 0:02:06 GMT 3
DW may have been right all through, but we seem to forget that we are in a forum formulated by one double O. He sets the democratic limits, he monitors every move and we are at his mercy. If Double O feels he has had enough of DW, we certainly cannot do much. We can definitely point it out to him but that's as far as we can go. In most cases, one ends up agreeing to disagree with double O and thereafter bliss prevails. A few days ago brought up a topic of members being allowed to vote on whether double O can suspend or expel a member. I soon realized it wasn't such a prudent idea after all as double O sets up the rules.
It is actually very difficult for all of us to conform to a particular notion and double O knows that. People are all different. Its particularly difficult for any moderator or administrator to know the true nature of contributors especially when some of them are here for purposes best known to them. As such, regulation of such a forum is arguably difficult. That is why sometimes when double O makes such a 'ruling' there will always be people opposed to it just as many more will be for it. The question is, what lessons do we learn from this? Is double O slowly pottering us into a form that he wants us to be?
Sometimes such actions though mundane sometimes implant a cautious conscience in one such that when they write or comment on a certain issue, they remember the possible consequences of not following the 'rules'. This in turn changes a forum from being a mere dispensation tool to a more professional board whose members understand their extent of expression.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 16, 2011 14:43:20 GMT 3
Mama Lucy is planning for life after presidency. She is probably spending more time in Othaya, trying to familiarize herself with her neighbors and trying to keep her house ready for Kibaki. Good for her, atleast she thinks ahead.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 16, 2011 14:33:59 GMT 3
Those advocating for Raila to drop Mudavadi are the same ones who celebrated when Ruto led his rebellion from ODM. They are simply wrecking the party. They just want to isolate the PM. Having Martha Karua as a running mate will not accord Raila substantial votes in central for reasons best known by all of you in here. Even if Ngilu was the running mate, numbers will still not add up as it will depend on what Kalonzo has on the other side.
The western vote is more crucial than playing Russian roulette with either central, Rift valley or Ukambani. Anybody suggesting that Eugene is rated much higher than Mudavadi is also lying. Eugene has very low ratings even in his own home turf. He may not even make it back to parliament this time. You are forgetting that Eugene actually came into the limelight after being fronted and funded by the former American Ambassador in a clandestine operation that could see a generational change in Kenya. The G-7 alliance hope that by having Eugene on their side, the Americans will support them. They forget that the former American Ambassador was advocating for republican views that are more often than not conservative and advocate for maintenance of the status quo. Washington has however changed. We do not know whom the democrats will favor. Eugene too cannot stand on his own. Even when buttressed by his fellow G-7 alliance members, he still looks lost amongst the big boys.
G-7 has yet to find a real unifying factor. They are still weak or rather, they are still two tribal kingpins trying to woe other perceived leaders from other regions to join their infamous course. That is why people like Balala who were there initially stepped out. Their unifying factor is Railaphobia.
We are forgetting that the real fight in the coming elections will be between those who advocate for the monopolization of the presidency which has so far gravitated around two major tribes in Kenya and those who are opposed to this idea. It will therefore be clear to Kenyans who represents what.The generational change idea may not play a big role here.
Some of the G-7 members may actually add no value to the course or rather, their vote contribution will highly depend on the position they will be accorded in the alliance. So the overall vote tally maybe very different come election date.
The next elections may actually be determined by Kenyans themselves rather than Kenyan leaders. We have seen ordinary Kenyans defy their leaders in many issues. We have seen the G-7 alliance try all sorts of tactics against the PM, but he seems to get support from ordinary Kenyans in areas largely controlled by his nemeses. People like Ruto have had to be talked to by various Kalenjin groups on whom he should support or not. It is a very precarious moment for anybody within an alliance right now as their action maybe counterproductive. It could therefore be prudent for any presidential hopeful to try and understand their electorate before he/she makes a choice of his running mate.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 16, 2011 13:53:25 GMT 3
Welcome! You will certainly find a very different Kenya from what you were used to. If you are thinking of staying in Nbi, beware of traffic jams and insecurity.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 16, 2011 13:25:27 GMT 3
if this is the first time, be assured it will be a changed place. Good luck
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 15, 2011 0:08:58 GMT 3
This poll does nothing but compare potential presidential aspirants. It does not take into account of special groupings coming up. Its highly unlikely that all the featured candidates will feature in the ballot paper. It is therefore erroneous as addition or removal of one or more people from that list alters the result. Infotrack could do a better job by carrying out a poll that looks at potential alliances. Perhaps, ODM Vs, KKK, ODM + Karua Vs G-7, ODM + Kalonzo vs, the rest of G-7, etc.
These will be a better poll than mere listing of potential presidential candidates. The election date is not even yet known. The only candidate known as per now is Raila. The other side is still unknown. It is highly unlikely that we can get an accurate poll unless we know who is on the other side. Infotrack is just selling itself. Do not believe them at this poll.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 11, 2011 21:44:38 GMT 3
According to wikileaks, Branson secretly led a plot by Akina M01 to pursuade Mugabe to step down. Very ironical since some of these 'Elders' like M01did not willingly step down from their power grips. Sir Richard Branson funded a secret project to try to secure the end of Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe, leaked diplomatic cables have revealed.
An international initiative founded by the 61-year-old Virgin boss apparently launched a plot to persuade the tyrant to stand down.
Details of the covert plan were revealed in an American diplomatic message sent to Washington in July 2007 from the US embassy in South Africa.
The document, written by America's then-ambassador to South Africa Eric Bost, revealed how Sir Richard agreed to meet in Johannesburg to discuss the scheme with a group of former African statesmen.
The British entrepreneur is well known as one of the founders of the 'Elders' organisation which brings together respected former presidents to help tackle global crises.
However, Mr Bost's confidential memo is the first indication that the group had ever plotted to help directly instigate regime change.
In the memo, which has been published by Wikileaks, Mr Bost wrote: "UK businessman Richard Branson is bankrolling an African 'Elders' initiative to convince Zimbabwean President Mugabe to step down.
"The 'Elders' plan to meet secretly in Johannesburg July 17 to 18 with Branson to discuss their initiative.
"Former Presidents Nelson Mandela (South Africa), Sam Nujoma (Namibia), Kenneth Kaunda (Zambia), Jerry Rawlings (Ghana), Joaquim Chissano (Mozambique), Daniel Arap Moi (Kenya) and Ketumile Masire (Botswana) have reportedly agreed to participate."
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047840/Sir-Richard-Branson-led-plot-remove-Robert-Mugabe.html#ixzz1aV32JtiV
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 11, 2011 2:03:09 GMT 3
Kibaki may actually go home a happy man, why? He will no-longer be in charge of powers that he could not manage, he wouldn't have to look for means to steal or allow his friends and colleagues to steal. He will no longer be blamed for all the ills and mess he has created since the colonial times as he has been at pains to correct anything in the last 10years. His happiness will be borne out of the relieve upon stepping down from a mandate Kenyans shouldn't have accorded him in the first place. He has actually created a society that is on the brink of explosion due to the high number of poor people and extremely few rich guys. Such a society filled with so much acrimony usually explodes as the poor people have got nothing to lose when the point of no return arrives. The next C-in-C will be at pains on how to balance Kibaki's extreme creations. Kibaki will surely be missed by a few individuals, the rest will even throw away his 40 shilling coin come 2012.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 10, 2011 21:22:05 GMT 3
Hey guys,
We have one more STD to worry about. Drs in UK warn that Gonorrhoea, a benign STD is fast becoming resistant to antibiotic drugs. Antibiotics are one of the most problematic drugs that we have. Once they do not work, there is normally no other way to treat you. Seems like this Gonorrohoea needs to be avoided at all cost. The last thing anybody would want to worry about is another un-treatable STD. HIV has already killed many. Glove up.
UK doctors are being told the antibiotic normally used to treat gonorrhoea is no longer effective because the sexually transmitted disease is now largely resistant to it.
The Health Protection Agency says we may be heading to a point when the disease is incurable unless new treatments can be found.
For now, doctors must stop using the usual treatment cefixime and instead use two more powerful antibiotics.
One is a pill and the other a jab.
The HPA say the change is necessary because of increasing resistance.
Untreatable strains Tests on samples taken from patients and grown in the laboratory showed reduced susceptibility to the usual antibiotic cefixime in nearly 20% of cases in 2010, compared with just 10% of cases in 2009.
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This presents the very real threat of untreatable gonorrhoea in the future”
Prof Cathy Ison HPA As recently as 2005, no gonorrhoea bacteria with reduced susceptibility to cefixime could be found in the UK.
The bacterium that causes the infection - Neisseria gonorrhoeae - has an unusual ability to adapt itself and has gained resistance, or reduced susceptibility, to a growing list of antibiotics - first penicillin itself, then tetracyclines, ciprofloxacin and now cefixime.
The World Health Organization recommends that the first-line antibiotic used is changed when treatment failure in patients reaches 5%.
But for cefixime, the change is being made pre-emptively, owing to the alarming rise in resistance that is emerging.
Prof Cathy Ison, a gonorrhoea expert at England's HPA, said: "Our lab tests have shown a dramatic reduction in the sensitivity of the drug we were using as the main treatment for gonorrhoea. This presents the very real threat of untreatable gonorrhoea in the future.
"We were so worried by the results we were seeing that we recommended that guidelines on the treatment of gonorrhoea were revised in May this year, to recommend a more effective drug.
"But this won't solve the problem, as history tells us that resistance to this therapy will develop too. In the absence of any new alternative treatments for when this happens, we will face a situation where gonorrhoea cannot be cured."
She said patients who refuse the jab will be offered oral antibiotics instead.
She added: "This highlights the importance of practising safe sex, as, if new antibiotic treatments can't be found, this will be only way of controlling this infection in the future."
After genital chlamydia, gonorrhoea is the second most common bacterial sexually transmitted infection in the UK.
According to HPA figures, there were 16,145 new diagnoses of gonorrhoea in 2010, a 3% increase on 2009 when there were 15,606.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 10, 2011 6:56:46 GMT 3
These guy's achievements must not be taken lightly even though their gadget was also criticized. First, they have demonstrated that we do not need large investments to create such a sophisticated gadget. All you need are brains to put all that is needed on paper, the Chinese with better production lines help in execution. Lets give them accolades. With high energy, and labor costs and numerous pitfalls of establishing a manufacturing plant, even the developied world has taken cue, they manufacture their merchandise in China. A good example is the computer industry. I do not know if there are any more computers being produced in US. I know most of the companies are American owned but manufacturing is overseas.
Now with the other ideas rotting at prototype level, let them learn from these guys. for example, there was that student from the coast who had a brilliant alarm system. Do we have a sell able one yet? Then there were those UON guys with a cycle cellphone charger. Did it ever grow beyond the proto-type stage?
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 10, 2011 2:23:23 GMT 3
Kathureke
The culture of over-dependence of one individual in Africa has grown beyond reprieve to an extent where one would kill another in order to gain the little that was left by a dead bread winner. This is well documented and illustrated in numerous incidents that happen every now and again in the Kenyan society, Further, there is an even bizarre twist, mothers, sons and daughters gang up against poor fathers who have worked tirelessly to generate wealth, hack them to death and get hold of perhaps land and literary eat it. Some brothers kill their own brothers just to increase their share of inheritance. Why does this happen? - the perpetrators in most cases cannot see beyond the dead man's wealth.
We have seen previously clandestine families arise after the death of their provider to lay claim in 'their estate' resulting in fights and even more deaths. You are aware of the Kirima fiasco, already one family member has died 'accidentally'. Kirima probably died due to shock of the events that were happening around him.
Kuthureke, we both know that these happens as a result of over- dependency of one breadwinner. If a man had a clandestine relationship, had an extra family, traditionally this family has been accorded its fair share of the dead man's wealth. They are brought to the open, vetted and if found to belong to the dead man, they are enjoined with the 'known' family. I have seen this happen a million times amongst my community. Nowdays one greedy family side will want to use whatever means they have to disinherit the other just because they cannot see beyond the dead man's hard work. We have see numerous families transform from riches to rags simply because they misused their late bread winner's wealth. We have actually seen people kill old rich family members just to get their wealth which is often mismanaged and wasted soon after.
What is the solution? Should we encourage more women to depend on their late husband's inheritance? Could it be better if they re-engineered themselves into providers and wealth generators rather than net consumers? What happens after the inheritance runs out? Are clandestine family members not entitled to a share of their dead father? What should happen to them? Can blaming a dead man for not distributing his wealth while alive solve the problem?
Kathureke, the least a woman can do upon death of his spouse to maintain his legacy, or better still his good side. If she cannot be entrepreneurial like her late provider, then its likely the entire family will go down. If she cannot look for a long term solution to sustain the dead man's family, then they too will join him. If all she sees is the little that he left in the bank, then the family again goes down. If all she has to do is fight and decimate the 'other family', then she is not even worth marrying in the first place. If saying this angers you, then kick me out.
Now come to housework, anyman who has lived in the west and has had an opportunity to have a family has probably handled housework. They have had to raise their kids or take care of their needs at one time or another. Is it doable? Yes. Is it hard, yes probably the first few days but once you are in it, its all about organization. You soon discover that you can actually handle it even better than a woman can. Have I done it? Yes and I enjoyed it. It was simple, and I enjoyed the company I had with my kids.
The bottom line is that the death of a provider should not signify the beginning of chaos. Those left within the family should step into his shoes and continue supporting the family, just like he did. If the woman cannot do this but is willing in engaging is sideshows that include court cases that are geared towards disinheriting other possible larger family members, she will end up destroying her immediate family too.
Just because a man's mischievously adventures resulted in the ballooning of the family size does not imply that they do not deserve help. They too are at loss of their source of in come. The man may have been wrong, but they maybe victims too. I am sure some people herein belong to the 'other family' and certainly will agree with me.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 10, 2011 1:07:41 GMT 3
I have stated again and again, the G-7 alliance is made up of individuals whose only aim is to prevent Raila from state house - nothing else. They have nothing in common other than that. They cannot decide for themselves. The 'big two' by virtue of their potential vote numbers, Uhuru and Ruto are hoodwinking the rest and Kalonzo knows this. These two guys want to monopolize Kenyan leadership whereby a toss-up presidency between the Kikuyu and Kalenjin is maintained. So they just need a few other votes from other regions to fulfill the constitutional threshold. UK and Ruto will never allow the others to be their flag bearer within the alliance, if they do, the presidential ping- pong will have a third tribe in the equation. This will break their perfectly laid leadership monopoly. Akina Eugene are beginning to sense this.
On the other hand, its plausible that these alliance may be playing with the minds of ODM. They may have resorted to creating artificial tension amongst themselves so as to throw off ODM's camp as the latter cannot effectively plan for a war against an unseen or veiled enemy. They maybe buying time before they reveal their lineup such that ODM wont have sufficient time before the elections to properly constitute a formidable team. Either way as events play out, its highly likely that the reigns of power will finally cross the great rift, come 2012.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 8, 2011 19:10:52 GMT 3
Jobless Corner,
Their work is not to attack, there work is to prevent an attack. If you have been reading Kenyan papers lately, you will remember a story were it was reported that at the intercept of Kenya, Ethiopia and Somalia there are only about 5 APs posted to guard the Kenyan side of the tripoint which is a long stretch of wildness that poorly equipped APs cannot even cover in a day. Now when these APs were interviewed, they said they said they were grateful for the Ethiopian army on the Ethiopian side that actually deters Somali militants from crossing over to both Kenya . Its one thing sending soldiers to fight in a war, its totally another letting them guard our borders. Ethiopians are not stupid to man their borders with soldiers. They know Al-shaabab is better equipped than their police.
The Merille in Ethiopia were actually armed by the government way back. These guys use AK47s as their walking sticks. They are dangerous. You cannot deter them with a G-3. Even Raila's convoy came under attack and could not tour the area the other day. We do not need to fight them, we need to deter them. The easiest and most effective way is to show our might. Send one Platoon up there were good weapons, they will be scared to death.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 6, 2011 23:25:18 GMT 3
Looks! I think looks wont play in next year's elections. For those who doubt me, ask Kalonzo. Kidero maybe an ideal person for that position, but in kenya, we all know that elections cannot be won on ''Ideals' alone. We do not always choose the best people. In most cases, we choose our leaders based on the prevailing euphoric sentiments. Thats why thugs are in parliament. Thats why even fluidic brains like Sonko have better chances of winning the governorship than Kidero. Kidero must first master the art of being a politician. He has to understand both the electorate and his opponents. He has to understand simple the arithmetic of vote winning In a city where 75% of the people reside in slum areas with to steady jobs, Kidero may not be 'one of their own'. All they will remember is that for every spoon of sugar they put in their tea, a few ndururu's went to Kidero's pocket. At no time did Kidero ever reduce the price of sugar. Instead he worked tirelessly to impress his fat employers and shareholders by cutting production costs and increasing the price of sugar so that they can get more dividends. I am sure if he is elected, he will work harder to impress his seniors ( whoever who will be in power). Therefore his super good CV only looks superb to the rich. Its horrible to slum dwellers. Kidero has an uphill task of convincing these people that he look at their welfare. Otherwise, they will see him as another fat cat who is looking for a career change.
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Post by subsaharanite on Oct 6, 2011 22:40:16 GMT 3
b6K, I think Orengo and CO must be privy to information concerning the Triangle. Remember Kenya did not actually steal it but it was agreed with the Sudanese Government that Kenya should administer that section of Sudan for the sake of the Turkana who moved into this section for animal grazing purposes during dry seasons but were often attacked by armed tribesmen from the Ethiopian tribe of Dassanech. Subsequently though the Kenyan and Ethiopian governments agreed on their side of the border although the Dassanech still believe they have rights on parts of the Triangle. Sudan on the other hand could not provide security to the poor nomadic Turkana especially when the civil war ensued so they actually paid Kenya to administer this area. This is common knowledge that Orengo should know. Check out some info at the wiki page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilemi_TriangleI think though this time, S. Sudan has hived more than the Ilemi Triangle, hence the red alert.
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